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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6133821" data-attributes="member: 6696971">@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?82106-AbdulAlhazred" target="_blank">AbdulAlhazred</a>      If I'm reading you correctly, then I would say improv and that it is the strength of the Exception-Based Design of 4e.  The transparency of the math aids in the adjudication of such things.  This is the primary reason why I'm strongly of the opinion that 4e GMs should have an intimate understanding of the available powers out there and those powers interfacing with the action economy, particularly with respect to their individual power level.  4e GMs will be most well-equipped to adjudicate p42 improv actions of their breadth of knowledge in this area is deep.  Case-in-point:The Rogue/Ranger in my game has the below Streetwise Skill Encounter Power:He uses this to great effect in taverns, alleys, cobblestone roadways, etc.  This is a power that he has purchased with PC build currency and deploys it as a stock PC build tool.  Clearly, this is not improv.However, he also has the Nature Skill and he has, on more than one occasion, attempted to mimic something similiar in a wilderness environment.  However, he has not purchased any such power with PC build currency.  As such, it is "off the grid" and improv.  Allowing him to do this exact power with all of its powerful components (full move + 9 contiguous squares of difficult terrain + full encounter duration of the DT) with a Nature check from the p42 medium DCs + 5 would be a bit too much.  So we scale it down a bit and give him a minor, short term penalty for failure; blast 2 (4 contiguous squares) instead of blast 3 (9 contiguous squares) and gives up CA until the end of his next turn on a failure (that is the usual penalty we use for most things of this sort).  If he offered up blast 3, and CA UEoYNT + maybe prone in one of the difficult terrain squares (which he has done) then I would allow him to attempt it at a Hard DC rather than Medium.  I'd allow him to create 1 square of difficult terrain at an Easy DC (which happens regularly).  Any of those things would clearly be p42 improv.  Those sorts of things happen at our table regularly.</blockquote>

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