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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bluenose" data-source="post: 6137263" data-attributes="member: 49017">Wait, you prefer multi-class characters and you don't like the conversion to 4e, but don't have a problem with the one from 2e to 3e. How?I mean when I first played 3.0 it was with a group that converted our existing characters from a 2e game to a 3e game, and then played the same game session from our 2e game in 3e. We were worried that the conversion wasn't good, so we thought we've give it a try and see what we needed to tweak to get similar results. We had two elven multi-classcharacters, a Ftr/Mage and a Mage/Thief, and I think it's fair to say neither player exactly enjoyed the experience of having horribly gimped PCs. It's amazing how much of what we felt was wrong with 3e came out in that game. Converted straight from 2e according to the guidelines, doing the same thing we'd done the week before, and the results were so different that we actually thought we'd done something wrong, either misunderstanding a huge swathe of the rules or at least in converting the characters. And then we checked and analysed, and discovered that we hadn't made any significant errors, the game was just giving us wildly different results even when we played it the way we had 2e.</blockquote>