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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7734158" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>That’s not what I mean. I don’t know what your personal edition lore background is, so you may already know this, but I’ll explain it for the benefit of those who might not.</p><p></p><p>In 2e/3e each of the nine alignments had a primary Exemplar race. I use race extremely loosely, because it was in fact a creature category with a wide variety of forms from weak to strong. Some of these will look familiar to modern players, others might not:</p><p></p><p>LG - Archons (completely different than what 4e used the name for)</p><p>NG - Guardinals</p><p>CG - Eladrin (again, completely different than the mortal race of the same name used in 4e)</p><p>LN - Modrons</p><p>N (“true” neutral) - Rilmani</p><p>CN - Slaad</p><p>LE - Devils</p><p>NE - Yugoloths</p><p>CE - Demons</p><p></p><p>Just like demons and devils come in all shapes, sizes, and power levels, so do these other creature categories. For example, Guardinals are mostly humanoid in form but have animalistic features (of various animals depending on the particular type of Guardinal). Archons range from glowing balls of light, to humanoids with swords for arms, anthropomorphic animals, and winged angel like beings with trumpets. Eladrin have a feyish theme, but are considered Celestial Exemplars like the other two good types. They range from winged pixie like creatures to things such as watery, deserty, fiery, knightly, and lordly types. (Rilmani are humanoid in shape, but appear to be made of various types off metal—not in a robotic or construct manner though.)</p><p></p><p>In general what these creatures all share is that they are formed from the souls off deceased mortals of the appropriate alignment. The good species are the counterparts of the evil species like devils and demons. Basically they occupy a similar cosmological place as angels. (They aren’t referred to by that name however. The angels, also known as Aasimon (ever wander where the name “aasimar” as a mortal with angelic ancestry came from? Now you know.) are separate beings, who are more dedicated to the gods of good, but they also have similar types and rankings.)</p><p></p><p>I hope it is obvious why converting Eladrin exemplars into an elven subrace (even if it got a changed creature type) completely misses the boat both conceptually and mechanically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7734158, member: 6677017"] That’s not what I mean. I don’t know what your personal edition lore background is, so you may already know this, but I’ll explain it for the benefit of those who might not. In 2e/3e each of the nine alignments had a primary Exemplar race. I use race extremely loosely, because it was in fact a creature category with a wide variety of forms from weak to strong. Some of these will look familiar to modern players, others might not: LG - Archons (completely different than what 4e used the name for) NG - Guardinals CG - Eladrin (again, completely different than the mortal race of the same name used in 4e) LN - Modrons N (“true” neutral) - Rilmani CN - Slaad LE - Devils NE - Yugoloths CE - Demons Just like demons and devils come in all shapes, sizes, and power levels, so do these other creature categories. For example, Guardinals are mostly humanoid in form but have animalistic features (of various animals depending on the particular type of Guardinal). Archons range from glowing balls of light, to humanoids with swords for arms, anthropomorphic animals, and winged angel like beings with trumpets. Eladrin have a feyish theme, but are considered Celestial Exemplars like the other two good types. They range from winged pixie like creatures to things such as watery, deserty, fiery, knightly, and lordly types. (Rilmani are humanoid in shape, but appear to be made of various types off metal—not in a robotic or construct manner though.) In general what these creatures all share is that they are formed from the souls off deceased mortals of the appropriate alignment. The good species are the counterparts of the evil species like devils and demons. Basically they occupy a similar cosmological place as angels. (They aren’t referred to by that name however. The angels, also known as Aasimon (ever wander where the name “aasimar” as a mortal with angelic ancestry came from? Now you know.) are separate beings, who are more dedicated to the gods of good, but they also have similar types and rankings.) I hope it is obvious why converting Eladrin exemplars into an elven subrace (even if it got a changed creature type) completely misses the boat both conceptually and mechanically. [/QUOTE]
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