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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7734478" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Wow, everything you just said is wrong.</p><p></p><p>Shadar-Kai first appeared in 3rd Edition, and in that first appearance they were Fey from the Plane of Shadow. If anything, making them Elves instead of humans in 5e brings them back to their 3e Fey roots. The name, “Shadowfell” originated in 4e, but the concept behind it is as old as AD&D, when it was called the Demiplane of Shadows, later just the Plane of Shadow in 3e. Though in 4e and 5e it got another new name and stole some feature of the Negative Energy Plane. In Stranger Things they call it the Vale of Shadows, although that name isn’t accurate to any edition.</p><p></p><p>They feywild is likewise not a new concept to 4e, though it did gain a lot more importance in 4e. But both Forgotten Realms and Planescape had concepts of a faerie world before 4e fleshed it out and gave it a name. Elves having formerly been shapeshifters has nothing to do with 4e, and appears to be an attempt at explaining the absurd degree of biodiversity among elves in D&D, as well as reconcile 4e Eladrin (which were basically just 4e’s high elves) with pre-4e Eladrin, which were planar creatures more comparable to the Fey-equivalent of Tieflings or Genasi.</p><p></p><p>So, you don’t have to like these changes, but claiming that them being too much like 4e as your reason for disliking them is either misinformed or disingenuous. Because it’s definitely making 5e <em>less</em> like 4e. Which again, isn’t a good or bad thing on its own. Love it or hate it, do it because that’s how you feel about the presentation as it is, not because of a perceived resemblance to an Edition you associate with everything you dislike in D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7734478, member: 6779196"] Wow, everything you just said is wrong. Shadar-Kai first appeared in 3rd Edition, and in that first appearance they were Fey from the Plane of Shadow. If anything, making them Elves instead of humans in 5e brings them back to their 3e Fey roots. The name, “Shadowfell” originated in 4e, but the concept behind it is as old as AD&D, when it was called the Demiplane of Shadows, later just the Plane of Shadow in 3e. Though in 4e and 5e it got another new name and stole some feature of the Negative Energy Plane. In Stranger Things they call it the Vale of Shadows, although that name isn’t accurate to any edition. They feywild is likewise not a new concept to 4e, though it did gain a lot more importance in 4e. But both Forgotten Realms and Planescape had concepts of a faerie world before 4e fleshed it out and gave it a name. Elves having formerly been shapeshifters has nothing to do with 4e, and appears to be an attempt at explaining the absurd degree of biodiversity among elves in D&D, as well as reconcile 4e Eladrin (which were basically just 4e’s high elves) with pre-4e Eladrin, which were planar creatures more comparable to the Fey-equivalent of Tieflings or Genasi. So, you don’t have to like these changes, but claiming that them being too much like 4e as your reason for disliking them is either misinformed or disingenuous. Because it’s definitely making 5e [i]less[/i] like 4e. Which again, isn’t a good or bad thing on its own. Love it or hate it, do it because that’s how you feel about the presentation as it is, not because of a perceived resemblance to an Edition you associate with everything you dislike in D&D. [/QUOTE]
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