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<blockquote data-quote="plisnithus8" data-source="post: 8435906" data-attributes="member: 6870553"><p>Command uses the word "directly" which has 3 common definitions:</p><p>1. without changing direction or stopping.</p><p>2. with nothing or no one in between.</p><p>3. as soon as.</p><p></p><p>So to be directly harmful (using a combination of 3 definitions), the effect would have to happen immediately following the triggering effect, which in this case would be movement within the spikes (which would include flying or digging out). The spell says nothing about knowledge of the harm by either the caster or the target -- the do-no-harm aspect is part of the arcane parameters of the magic itself.</p><p></p><p>Using Command to find traps might be possible (using a 1st level spell rather than a 2nd level Find Traps spell), except that you are using your allies as guinea pigs that could suffer greatly from indirect harm. Find Traps also reveals "undesirable" effects that may not do harm (which Command may not), has a range of 120 feet, and reveals"the general nature of the danger posed."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="plisnithus8, post: 8435906, member: 6870553"] Command uses the word "directly" which has 3 common definitions: 1. without changing direction or stopping. 2. with nothing or no one in between. 3. as soon as. So to be directly harmful (using a combination of 3 definitions), the effect would have to happen immediately following the triggering effect, which in this case would be movement within the spikes (which would include flying or digging out). The spell says nothing about knowledge of the harm by either the caster or the target -- the do-no-harm aspect is part of the arcane parameters of the magic itself. Using Command to find traps might be possible (using a 1st level spell rather than a 2nd level Find Traps spell), except that you are using your allies as guinea pigs that could suffer greatly from indirect harm. Find Traps also reveals "undesirable" effects that may not do harm (which Command may not), has a range of 120 feet, and reveals"the general nature of the danger posed." [/QUOTE]
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