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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9438194" data-attributes="member: 6790260">And forbidden by the 5.0 wording of the spell, emphasis added: &quot;The spell has no effect if the target is undead, if it doesn't understand your language, or if your command is directly harmful to it.&quot; A sapient being is able to tell that &quot;walking&quot; or &quot;flying&quot; off a ledge/beam is directly harmful to it. As for the others...<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dismount: A valid command...but only for the first bit. The second (dismount while at a gallop/etc.) is forbidden, again because dismounting while in motion is harmful.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dive: Sure, but that's a spell slot sacrificed to get a single turn's worth of temporary inaction. Creative and valid, but mostly wasteful...and requires the target be in liquid. &quot;Drop&quot; achieves the same effect, without requiring that folks be in liquid first, and may be exploited by allies (grabbing the dropped item/s).</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Breathe (while in noxious gas): Again, forbidden by the 5.0 text of the spell.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Eat: Not really seeing the creativity here? What does this even accomplish?</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Scream/Yell while sneaking: Most likely forbidden by the 5.0 wording. At the very least, none of the 5.0 DMs I've ever had would have permitted this. (In fact, if it weren't explicitly one of the listed commands, I doubt most DMs would even allow &quot;Drop&quot;!)</li>
</ul>Seeing as only three of the seven examples (non-moving Dismount, Dive, and Eat) were unequivocally valid under the previous wording, your list does not really inspire much confidence that that much has been lost here. As with a lot of so-called &quot;creative&quot; uses of spells, much of it comes from wheeling-and-dealing away the actual limitations thereof, rather than</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9438194, member: 6790260"] And forbidden by the 5.0 wording of the spell, emphasis added: "The spell has no effect if the target is undead, if it doesn't understand your language, or if [B]your command is directly harmful to it[/B]." A sapient being is able to tell that "walking" or "flying" off a ledge/beam is directly harmful to it. As for the others... [LIST] [*]Dismount: A valid command...but only for the first bit. The second (dismount while at a gallop/etc.) is forbidden, again because dismounting while in motion is harmful. [*]Dive: Sure, but that's a spell slot sacrificed to get a single turn's worth of temporary inaction. Creative and valid, but mostly wasteful...and requires the target be in liquid. "Drop" achieves the same effect, without requiring that folks be in liquid first, and may be exploited by allies (grabbing the dropped item/s). [*]Breathe (while in noxious gas): Again, forbidden by the 5.0 text of the spell. [*]Eat: Not really seeing the creativity here? What does this even accomplish? [*]Scream/Yell while sneaking: [I]Most likely[/I] forbidden by the 5.0 wording. At the very least, none of the 5.0 DMs I've ever had would have permitted this. (In fact, if it weren't explicitly one of the listed commands, I doubt most DMs would even allow "Drop"!) [/LIST] Seeing as only three of the seven examples (non-moving Dismount, Dive, and Eat) were unequivocally valid under the previous wording, your list does not really inspire much confidence that that much has been lost here. As with a lot of so-called "creative" uses of spells, much of it comes from wheeling-and-dealing away the actual limitations thereof, rather than [/QUOTE]

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