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<blockquote data-quote="SableWyvern" data-source="post: 9440952" data-attributes="member: 1008">Salute, drink and spit are all commonly used as verbs. If you are denying them on the grounds that they can also be used as nouns, then almost every possible command can be disallowed on a similar basis (in spite of the whole &quot;suicide&quot; thing in the 1e description, which appears to be just a very poor example by Gygax).I do not agree that these words were against the original intent -- those are the sorts of uses that I consider to be the entire point of earlier iterations of D&amp;D. Numerous GMs in this thread (myself included) have made it clear that we don't see these uses as abuses or opposed to the our reading of intent, and that we like it when players come up with some uses.Feel free to have a different opinion and rule differently in your own game, but again, I suggest you stop using words like &quot;jerk&quot;, &quot;abuse&quot; and &quot;cheese&quot; to describe players and a playstyle that is simply different to your preference.No, the intent is that a creature with the ability to transform will use it. I would not expect it to have any effect on someone without the ability to shapechange in the first place. As I stated, the intended use case was to prove that someone else is a shapechanger.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SableWyvern, post: 9440952, member: 1008"] Salute, drink and spit are all commonly used as verbs. If you are denying them on the grounds that they can also be used as nouns, then almost every possible command can be disallowed on a similar basis (in spite of the whole "suicide" thing in the 1e description, which appears to be just a very poor example by Gygax). I do not agree that these words were against the original intent -- those are the sorts of uses that I consider to be the entire point of earlier iterations of D&D. Numerous GMs in this thread (myself included) have made it clear that we don't see these uses as abuses or opposed to the our reading of intent, and that we like it when players come up with some uses. Feel free to have a different opinion and rule differently in your own game, but again, I suggest you stop using words like "jerk", "abuse" and "cheese" to describe players and a playstyle that is simply different to your preference. No, the intent is that a creature with the ability to transform will use it. I would not expect it to have any effect on someone without the ability to shapechange in the first place. As I stated, the intended use case was to prove that someone else is a shapechanger. [/QUOTE]

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