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Command is the Perfect Encapsulation of Everything I Don't Like About 5.5e
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9444310" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Ummm, nope? None of the examples of Command actually force the target to take an action. Not one. And none of them allow for the target to take an action against something or someone else. Every example is a free action combined with a movement and then end the turn. Anything more than that is clearly not within the RAI of the spell.</p><p></p><p>This has nothing to do with house rules. How can it WHEN THE DEFINITION OF THE SPELL IS THAT THE DM IS TO RESOLVE ANY NON STANDARD COMMANDS? You keep claiming that you're following the "black and white" of the spell, but, there is no actual black and white and that's the entire problem of the spell mechanic. This is why this spell is poorly written. Because there is no actual answer to be had here. The description of the 2014 version basically says, "ask your DM". There are no actual rules there. </p><p></p><p>So, I follow what's intended by the examples given. None of the examples allow the caster to force the target to take an action. None of the examples allow the caster to force the target to interact with anything other than what the target personally has in his or her hand. And, even then, the only interaction is a free one - drop the object. </p><p></p><p>You keep adding effects beyond the examples and then claiming that these are permitted because there is no text saying they aren't, while ignoring the context of the examples given in the spell description.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9444310, member: 22779"] Ummm, nope? None of the examples of Command actually force the target to take an action. Not one. And none of them allow for the target to take an action against something or someone else. Every example is a free action combined with a movement and then end the turn. Anything more than that is clearly not within the RAI of the spell. This has nothing to do with house rules. How can it WHEN THE DEFINITION OF THE SPELL IS THAT THE DM IS TO RESOLVE ANY NON STANDARD COMMANDS? You keep claiming that you're following the "black and white" of the spell, but, there is no actual black and white and that's the entire problem of the spell mechanic. This is why this spell is poorly written. Because there is no actual answer to be had here. The description of the 2014 version basically says, "ask your DM". There are no actual rules there. So, I follow what's intended by the examples given. None of the examples allow the caster to force the target to take an action. None of the examples allow the caster to force the target to interact with anything other than what the target personally has in his or her hand. And, even then, the only interaction is a free one - drop the object. You keep adding effects beyond the examples and then claiming that these are permitted because there is no text saying they aren't, while ignoring the context of the examples given in the spell description. [/QUOTE]
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