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<blockquote data-quote="Larcen" data-source="post: 191832" data-attributes="member: 2406">My cleric has grown to love all the mind-controlling enchantments available to him.&nbsp; When using spells in battle, he almost exclusively uses Command, Random Action, and Hold Person.&nbsp; I find this type of clean victory over my opponents much cooler, and more to my character's style, than a flashy damage spell could ever be.&nbsp; It's really amazing how many tough opponents have such weak WILL saves.Anyway, on to my question at hand:Can a Command spell be issued along with visual clues?&nbsp; Let me explain by using examples.If I hold up a cup full of some liquid and then Command the target to &quot;Drink!&quot;, would he grab the offered cup or simply grab the waterskin from his belt and drink from it, thereby satifying the letter but not the intent on my Command?Another example:&nbsp; If I look at someone, point to someone else, and then Command the first person to &quot;Attack!&quot;, will the target of the spell pick up on my visual clue and go attack the person I was pointing to or just attack whatever HE wanted, again satisfying the letter, but not the intent of my Command?Yet another example.&nbsp; The target is on a rooftop above me and I am on the ground.&nbsp; If I point to a spot on the ground in front of me and Command him to &quot;Jump!&quot;, will he take a leap off the roof to try and hit the spot I pointed to, or will he just jump up and down on one leg on the roof in relative safety? Note that in the last example a simple &quot;Come!&quot; would not have the desired affect as the target could then just take his time and climb down to get to me, or find the nearest ladder or staircase for a round.&nbsp; &quot;Jump!&quot; is a definate, immediate risk. Also, using the last example, if I had Commanded him to &quot;Fall!&quot; and point to the ground in front of me, would he fall to the ground in front of me, or just fall at his own feet, still safely on the roof?&nbsp; The same could be asked if I was on the rooftop with him and pointed off the edge and Commanded &quot;Fall!&quot;, or &quot;Jump!&quot;.I am sure we can all come up with more examples along these lines.&nbsp; When responding, please bear in mind that as powerful as these tactics are, commanding a person to&nbsp; &quot;Die!&quot; within melee range is pretty much an instant kill anyway, since you can then usually follow up with a Coup de Grace (sp?) next round.&nbsp; At least I think you can...that one round duration can be so hair-splitting sometimes.&nbsp;&nbsp; At the very least one of your buddys can take the helpless person out in the time available.Thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Larcen, post: 191832, member: 2406"] My cleric has grown to love all the mind-controlling enchantments available to him. When using spells in battle, he almost exclusively uses Command, Random Action, and Hold Person. I find this type of clean victory over my opponents much cooler, and more to my character's style, than a flashy damage spell could ever be. It's really amazing how many tough opponents have such weak WILL saves. Anyway, on to my question at hand: Can a Command spell be issued along with visual clues? Let me explain by using examples. If I hold up a cup full of some liquid and then Command the target to "Drink!", would he grab the offered cup or simply grab the waterskin from his belt and drink from it, thereby satifying the letter but not the intent on my Command? Another example: If I look at someone, point to someone else, and then Command the first person to "Attack!", will the target of the spell pick up on my visual clue and go attack the person I was pointing to or just attack whatever HE wanted, again satisfying the letter, but not the intent of my Command? Yet another example. The target is on a rooftop above me and I am on the ground. If I point to a spot on the ground in front of me and Command him to "Jump!", will he take a leap off the roof to try and hit the spot I pointed to, or will he just jump up and down on one leg on the roof in relative safety? Note that in the last example a simple "Come!" would not have the desired affect as the target could then just take his time and climb down to get to me, or find the nearest ladder or staircase for a round. "Jump!" is a definate, immediate risk. Also, using the last example, if I had Commanded him to "Fall!" and point to the ground in front of me, would he fall to the ground in front of me, or just fall at his own feet, still safely on the roof? The same could be asked if I was on the rooftop with him and pointed off the edge and Commanded "Fall!", or "Jump!". I am sure we can all come up with more examples along these lines. When responding, please bear in mind that as powerful as these tactics are, commanding a person to "Die!" within melee range is pretty much an instant kill anyway, since you can then usually follow up with a Coup de Grace (sp?) next round. At least I think you can...that one round duration can be so hair-splitting sometimes. At the very least one of your buddys can take the helpless person out in the time available. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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