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<blockquote data-quote="welby" data-source="post: 1368936" data-attributes="member: 13834">Hi, I'm the player-mage in question.&nbsp; First off, I want to say it certainly was not my intention to control a spectre who would then control other spectres.&nbsp; The only reason I attempted to do so, was because my alternative was certain doom.&nbsp; For roleplaying reasons, I got seperated from my party.&nbsp; I'm all alone in dragon mountain (yes, dragon mountain!&nbsp; please no spoilers, I really dont know anything about it other than its brutal) and I have very few spells left.I'm not running around town killing innocents with the spectre, like one poster above thought.&nbsp; I'm killing kobolds.&nbsp; This only makes the problem worse, because it doesn't take much to make a kobold spectre. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />To those who said that the original spectre would just send his minions to kill me, what about the part in the spell description that says &quot;treat its attitude as friendly&quot;.&nbsp; That doesn't sound very friendly.My DM has already made me make two charisma checks (one to not attack me after I charmed it because it wasn't in his nature to not attack living things, and another to get it to leave the area it was guarding) plus the spells saving throw. Add this to the fact that I have -7 charisma, and it's lucky I even have control at all.I suggested to my DM today that the spectre would send the minions he creates to guard the tomb where I originally found the spectre.&nbsp; I dont need or want this to get out of hand, but I do feel like I'm going to need a little DM niceness if I'm going to make it back to my party alive.&nbsp; When you consider than I'd alone because I stayed in character, and I haven't simply teleported home because I understand OOC that the story is currently in the mountain, is it too much to ask for a break?&nbsp; So I got lucky and controlled a spectre, who can control other spectres.&nbsp; Let me meet up with my party, and then kill them off.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="welby, post: 1368936, member: 13834"] Hi, I'm the player-mage in question. First off, I want to say it certainly was not my intention to control a spectre who would then control other spectres. The only reason I attempted to do so, was because my alternative was certain doom. For roleplaying reasons, I got seperated from my party. I'm all alone in dragon mountain (yes, dragon mountain! please no spoilers, I really dont know anything about it other than its brutal) and I have very few spells left. I'm not running around town killing innocents with the spectre, like one poster above thought. I'm killing kobolds. This only makes the problem worse, because it doesn't take much to make a kobold spectre. :) To those who said that the original spectre would just send his minions to kill me, what about the part in the spell description that says "treat its attitude as friendly". That doesn't sound very friendly. My DM has already made me make two charisma checks (one to not attack me after I charmed it because it wasn't in his nature to not attack living things, and another to get it to leave the area it was guarding) plus the spells saving throw. Add this to the fact that I have -7 charisma, and it's lucky I even have control at all. I suggested to my DM today that the spectre would send the minions he creates to guard the tomb where I originally found the spectre. I dont need or want this to get out of hand, but I do feel like I'm going to need a little DM niceness if I'm going to make it back to my party alive. When you consider than I'd alone because I stayed in character, and I haven't simply teleported home because I understand OOC that the story is currently in the mountain, is it too much to ask for a break? So I got lucky and controlled a spectre, who can control other spectres. Let me meet up with my party, and then kill them off. [/QUOTE]

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