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<blockquote data-quote="Winterthorn" data-source="post: 3768434" data-attributes="member: 1702"><p>Actually I have never worked on a large creative project the size of a whole rules system like D&D, but have done many creative things and works on a smaller scale. I understand that when working creatively one seeks to make improvements, or may look back at a completed work and say, "gosh, I want to fix that part over there..." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But I guess fatigue, it's past 3am for me, is playing on me -- I'm interpreting a possibility of contempt for past work rather than critique... That they didn't like what they were doing but had to do it anyways for a paycheck. Maybe I'm over-reaching, but a sweeping cast-off remark like "3E is inherently unbalanced" has the authorative tone of gospel, and it is not a thoughtful reflective critique of a past labour of love - certainly not the kind of remark I would use. Far better to have said "4e is going to be more balanced because we learned over the years of many games that 3E had genuine balance issues, and we'll incorporate changes to address them in the new edition." For a ENWorld member to say what J. Wyatt said I would just ignore, or read if there was some interesting exposition to explain the remark, but coming from a WotC employee, that is not cool with me.</p><p></p><p>Well, I take things at heart, including my hobbies, and flippant opinions from WotC employees regarding the direction of products that support my interests do not inspire me. They were enthusiastically pushing a good product for many years, now within the space of one month they say, in veiled language if not directly, that 3E is bad. Well many of us spent a lot of $$ on what we preceived was decent gaming material, and now we are made to feel that we made the wrong decision even have invested anything at all in 3E. At least, remarks like Wyatt's and Tweet's suggest to me they knew for years we were wasting our time and money (as DM I bought a lot of material - but not all)... The more I think of it, the more I question the sincerity of anyone from WotC working on D&D.</p><p></p><p>Ok, I'm tired. I gotta sleep...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winterthorn, post: 3768434, member: 1702"] Actually I have never worked on a large creative project the size of a whole rules system like D&D, but have done many creative things and works on a smaller scale. I understand that when working creatively one seeks to make improvements, or may look back at a completed work and say, "gosh, I want to fix that part over there..." :) But I guess fatigue, it's past 3am for me, is playing on me -- I'm interpreting a possibility of contempt for past work rather than critique... That they didn't like what they were doing but had to do it anyways for a paycheck. Maybe I'm over-reaching, but a sweeping cast-off remark like "3E is inherently unbalanced" has the authorative tone of gospel, and it is not a thoughtful reflective critique of a past labour of love - certainly not the kind of remark I would use. Far better to have said "4e is going to be more balanced because we learned over the years of many games that 3E had genuine balance issues, and we'll incorporate changes to address them in the new edition." For a ENWorld member to say what J. Wyatt said I would just ignore, or read if there was some interesting exposition to explain the remark, but coming from a WotC employee, that is not cool with me. Well, I take things at heart, including my hobbies, and flippant opinions from WotC employees regarding the direction of products that support my interests do not inspire me. They were enthusiastically pushing a good product for many years, now within the space of one month they say, in veiled language if not directly, that 3E is bad. Well many of us spent a lot of $$ on what we preceived was decent gaming material, and now we are made to feel that we made the wrong decision even have invested anything at all in 3E. At least, remarks like Wyatt's and Tweet's suggest to me they knew for years we were wasting our time and money (as DM I bought a lot of material - but not all)... The more I think of it, the more I question the sincerity of anyone from WotC working on D&D. Ok, I'm tired. I gotta sleep... [/QUOTE]
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