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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6348784" data-attributes="member: 2525">Yes, because I said it's one of the most important factors.  And I asked you a question that explains why it is so important, but you didn't answer.  I will ask again - is there a price at which you would buy the D&D set but not the PF set? If the PF set were $100 and the D&D set were $20, would that do it? What's the line you draw (if it's not cheap vs pricey, which we already established)?When you find that line, you will understand my point.  For me, I've already hit that line.  The PF set priced me out of the market, so it doesn't matter what is in it.  I don't in general need a starter set - the only way I am an audience for one is if I consider it a good set AND it's priced right.  The D&D set is a good set (regardless of how it compares to another set out there - it's good on its own) and it's at the right price.  The analysis for me on the PF stops at the price.  I don't even get to whether it is good or not at that point.I actually ended up buying TWO D&D starter sets.  One to give away right away to a new player, and another to run the adventure before I give it away to a new player.  I can do that at $12 each.  I can never do that for the PF set - I cannot even buy one of them for the price of these two sets I bought from Amazon.  Price is that important a factor.BTW I hate those images you posted of the PF starter set.  What you like, with vibrant colors, I despise.  It looks childish, it looks garish, it looks cartoonish, it looks altogether soul-less to me.  I wish you hadn't ever shown me those pictures because now I know for sure that set is never for me.  It would be fine for a superhero game, but for D&D? Wow, no way.  From my subjective view, that is just awful. It looks like some of the worst aspects of 4e - stuff they started to finally move away from in their later books when they realized how it was coming across to many. Totally removes the sense of magic and mystery that is such a good part of D&D.  Ugh, and that Barbarian Manga-looking character? What do you see in that, it's ridiculous looking!</blockquote>

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