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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4736029" data-attributes="member: 4722">Yes and no. I think that maybe the players didn't have enough access... but there was also too much of the goodness. 3E/3.5 suffered from the same problem 2E had - supplement glut. 110 pages of feats is just an example of the sheer amount of material we, as players, have to choose from. The core rules were written with the core books only in mind - in that mindset, 1 feat/3 levels is plenty (though some could argue that going 1/2 levels might be better; I dunno).Yeah... but compare a) what else that fighter could do in 2E vs. 3E; and b) how much his damage output has increased between editions as a result. In 2E, magic items were (in the core books, at least) a lot rarer and less varied. In 3E, he could have two +3 flaming keen ghost touch rapiers of speed. Imagine the havoc he could wreak with those in 2E, with 5 attacks/round. Hell, I've seen it myself (not those exact weapons, but I had a ranger with a frost brand and a flame tongue, and I could dish out a LOT of damage). Now we have things like Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, Combat Reflexes, sneak attacks... and that's just from the PHB.Off-Hand Specialist wasn't in the PHB, and you could never get better than -2/-2 with two weapons in 3E or 3.5. But, see above.  Pathfinder uses a 1:1 system. That is, ALL skills are worth one point, class skill or not. Unfortunately, they didn't boost the skills for the 2+Int classes, but it still allows for a lot more skill diversity.Question: Would you allow the players unfettered access to any feat they could find?It's all a matter of what you let the players use. If you allow them access to any feat ever written, then sure - you might need 3/level. Those of us who use core books only, or core books + a few supplements, see nothing wrong with the 1/3 or 1/2 system.The players shouldn't have everything - that leads to boredom and dissatisfaction. How do you DM for a group that is so powerful? How do you challenge them? They'd be akin to demigods by L15 - 45+ feats each, hundreds of skill points... not to mention it would be very hard to RUN such a character - you'd have to keep track of all that!I'm not an admin, but I felt the need to chime in anyway. You can get the beta for free, and thus actually see how Pathfinder works. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Eh, we freely discuss PF vs. D&D here - there are a couple threads on that already.</blockquote>

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