Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4737687" data-attributes="member: 2020">Good afternoon, Treebore.  Are you referring to my ideas, or anothers?  (If you are referring to mine, thanks for the support.)    I am assuming Pathfinder is 'backward compatible' with all of the D&D editions except - apparently - 4E, and with Hackmaster, and with Castles and Crusades.  Based on this assumption, I am trying to discuss Pathfinder in Pathfinder shop talk as much as possible, and in D&D terminology otherwise.    Thanks.  This confirms what I thought, that Pathfinder is backward compatible.  Thanks much.    (puzzled)  Can you elaborate?  Pathfinder is best suited for *whom* ?  It is *not* meant for those who are staying 3E, yet it is backward compatible ... can you elaborate?    Elaborate?    It sounds like Pathfinder is very similar to 3E, really.  Yet you say it is not for those who would stick with 3E.  Can you elaborate further?    I am told Castles and Crusades is similar to 1E Dungeons and Dragons.  Is this true?       Note that in 1E, and apparently in C&C, a 1st level character can try anything ... but I remember that the chances of success were rather low unless you had the appropriate Non Weapon Proficiency.  From my point of view, 3E allowed more flexibility.  You could try most anything at low level in 3E (you did not need skill ranks to attempt something) but if you wished to attempt something *difficult* or *professional level* in 3E, you had to buy skill ranks.  This seemed reasonable to me.  I thought 3E's rules better defined (and thus protected) player characters and their capacities, compared to the NWPs of 1E (which were few and far between) and unforgiving DMs of that time ('you can try it, but good luck ... untrained, you aren't going to be able to do it!')  I admit, though, I am completely unfamiliar with the SIEGE roll.  That seems a uniquely Castles and Crusades concept.  If you wish to elaborate on it, please do so.  I am curious!  My increased number of skill points was ... to some extent ... an attempt to duplicate what you are talking about for Pathfinder ... the ability to try more things.  But *not* to do *just anything*, especially at low level.  You can *try* most things, and hope for the best, but training and effort pays off, by the spending of skill points!  Or, at least, that's how I would hope it would work in general.    Can you elaborate on the 'try anything' concept you are discussing?  Just 'how good' can a 1st level character *be*, in what he 'tries' at 1st level, in general?  How far can he reach with his talents in all the various skills?  How capable is he?  Can you explain it in skill rank terms?  Can he pull a skill rank 5 in everything?  A skill rank 8?  A skill rank 10?  A skill rank 15, for this 1st level character?  (that would utter dwarf any new capabilities I have proposed, for a Pathfinder character, by the way, if a C&C character could pull a DC 15 check in everything at 1st level!)</blockquote>

Verification