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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 2771221" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>How hard is a Difficulty Check (DC) roll?</p><p> Seriously.</p><p> Because in the skills everything relies on a DC roll, and I see it in other aspects of the game as well.</p><p> But DC numbers don't mean anything to me, if I can't relate them to specifically difficult things, or a specific level of difficulty.</p><p></p><p> I will give my preliminary estimate (my best guess) of the DC difficulties. Would you, then, give me feedback on that? And would you give your own estimates of what the numbers mean?</p><p></p><p> (Everything given below assumes you've never tried it before, except DC 0 and 1)</p><p></p><p> DC 0: Automatic (breathing when you can breathe normally) </p><p> DC 1: Very easy (walking when you are a healthy adult in an easy situation)</p><p> DC 2: Moderately easy (jogging at a slow pace on a smooth sidewalk when you are an athlete)</p><p> DC 3: Some effort required (walking through shallow to moderate snow with boots on)</p><p> DC 4: Slightly difficult (running at full speed down a sidewalk, walking through an overgrown meadow, sawing light wood with a hand saw, trying to stay awake for 24 hours)</p><p> DC 5: Moderately difficult (climbing a dry tree in good weather, when the tree has plenty of branches and you're in good shape, sawing hardwood with a hand saw)</p><p> DC 6: Difficult (trying to climb a wet tree with many branches when you're in good shape, attempting to rollerblade or rollerskate, attempting the moderate slope of a ski run, trying to stay awake for 48 hours)</p><p> DC 7: More difficult (trying to play a violin passably, trying to climb a ladder covered in ice from an icestorm, trying ice skating, trying to ski down a moderately advanced slope, trying to climb a tree with few branches, trying to saw through a thick tree with a hand saw)</p><p> DC 8: Very difficult. (trying to play a flute passably, trying to stay awake for 72 hours, trying to use a skill saw and a hammer and nails to make fine furniture, trying to wallpaper a room properly)</p><p> DC 10: So difficult it is probably impossible to do this without training. Or, extremely hazardous, such as climbing a tree trunk without hardly any branches, swimming in deep and fast flowing (warm) water, skiing on advanced slopes, attempting iceskating figures or maneuvers, attempting ballet movements, maintaining fast dancing. Or mentally challenging, figuring out calculus equations, working out physics, or solving complicated chemistry.</p><p> DC 13: Playing a violin, flute, or piano well enough to please a non-demanding audience. Mastering the less difficult maneuvers of ballet or ice skating. Skiing as an expert. Being an somewhat competent mathematician, physicist, or mechanic. Making it to internship as a doctor.</p><p> DC 16: Playing a violin, flute, or piano well enough to please a typical, musical audience. Mastering the moderately difficult maneuvers of ballet or ice skating. Becoming a competent ski instructor. Being a fully competent mathematician, physicist, mechanic, archetect, or a somewhat competent engineer. Making it through internship in a good hospital.</p><p> DC 20: Being a concert violinist, flautist, pianist, or a great ballet dancer of ice skater. Being an olympic skier. Being a brilliant mathematician, physicist, mechanic, or archetect. Being a very fine engineer. Being a truly competent specialist doctor.</p><p> DC 23: Being the best or nearly the best violinist or singer in the world. Being a champion olympic athlete. Being one of the best of the best as a doctor. Being a prodigy in one subject, having understanding and insight completely beyond the scope of practically anyone else.</p><p> DC 25: The theoretical limits of human achievement, such as Newton's invention of calculus and physics, or Conan surviving the Wheel of Pain for 15 years.</p><p> DC 30: This level of ability represents superhuman capacity, such as shown by many heroes and villains in stories and films.</p><p> DC 35: This level of ability represents very great superhuman capacity, which when shown in films and books is obviously of magical origin (since it so transcends reality it is not believable in any other way.)</p><p> DC 40: ?</p><p></p><p> I request feedback, as much as you care to give, on this one. I need to know what the numbers mean, badly.</p><p></p><p> Yours Sincerely</p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 2771221, member: 2020"] How hard is a Difficulty Check (DC) roll? Seriously. Because in the skills everything relies on a DC roll, and I see it in other aspects of the game as well. But DC numbers don't mean anything to me, if I can't relate them to specifically difficult things, or a specific level of difficulty. I will give my preliminary estimate (my best guess) of the DC difficulties. Would you, then, give me feedback on that? And would you give your own estimates of what the numbers mean? (Everything given below assumes you've never tried it before, except DC 0 and 1) DC 0: Automatic (breathing when you can breathe normally) DC 1: Very easy (walking when you are a healthy adult in an easy situation) DC 2: Moderately easy (jogging at a slow pace on a smooth sidewalk when you are an athlete) DC 3: Some effort required (walking through shallow to moderate snow with boots on) DC 4: Slightly difficult (running at full speed down a sidewalk, walking through an overgrown meadow, sawing light wood with a hand saw, trying to stay awake for 24 hours) DC 5: Moderately difficult (climbing a dry tree in good weather, when the tree has plenty of branches and you're in good shape, sawing hardwood with a hand saw) DC 6: Difficult (trying to climb a wet tree with many branches when you're in good shape, attempting to rollerblade or rollerskate, attempting the moderate slope of a ski run, trying to stay awake for 48 hours) DC 7: More difficult (trying to play a violin passably, trying to climb a ladder covered in ice from an icestorm, trying ice skating, trying to ski down a moderately advanced slope, trying to climb a tree with few branches, trying to saw through a thick tree with a hand saw) DC 8: Very difficult. (trying to play a flute passably, trying to stay awake for 72 hours, trying to use a skill saw and a hammer and nails to make fine furniture, trying to wallpaper a room properly) DC 10: So difficult it is probably impossible to do this without training. Or, extremely hazardous, such as climbing a tree trunk without hardly any branches, swimming in deep and fast flowing (warm) water, skiing on advanced slopes, attempting iceskating figures or maneuvers, attempting ballet movements, maintaining fast dancing. Or mentally challenging, figuring out calculus equations, working out physics, or solving complicated chemistry. DC 13: Playing a violin, flute, or piano well enough to please a non-demanding audience. Mastering the less difficult maneuvers of ballet or ice skating. Skiing as an expert. Being an somewhat competent mathematician, physicist, or mechanic. Making it to internship as a doctor. DC 16: Playing a violin, flute, or piano well enough to please a typical, musical audience. Mastering the moderately difficult maneuvers of ballet or ice skating. Becoming a competent ski instructor. Being a fully competent mathematician, physicist, mechanic, archetect, or a somewhat competent engineer. Making it through internship in a good hospital. DC 20: Being a concert violinist, flautist, pianist, or a great ballet dancer of ice skater. Being an olympic skier. Being a brilliant mathematician, physicist, mechanic, or archetect. Being a very fine engineer. Being a truly competent specialist doctor. DC 23: Being the best or nearly the best violinist or singer in the world. Being a champion olympic athlete. Being one of the best of the best as a doctor. Being a prodigy in one subject, having understanding and insight completely beyond the scope of practically anyone else. DC 25: The theoretical limits of human achievement, such as Newton's invention of calculus and physics, or Conan surviving the Wheel of Pain for 15 years. DC 30: This level of ability represents superhuman capacity, such as shown by many heroes and villains in stories and films. DC 35: This level of ability represents very great superhuman capacity, which when shown in films and books is obviously of magical origin (since it so transcends reality it is not believable in any other way.) DC 40: ? I request feedback, as much as you care to give, on this one. I need to know what the numbers mean, badly. Yours Sincerely Edena_of_Neith [/QUOTE]
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