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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 2773141" data-attributes="member: 2020">Kenobi, the rest of you ... if Divine Grace allows you to use your Charisma bonus for all your Saves, does that stack with your other attribute bonuses to Saves (Dexterity, Wisdom, possibly other stats.) ?&nbsp; If you are allowed your Charisma bonus to Attack, does that stack with Strength and/or Dexterity bonuses?&nbsp; -&nbsp; So you are saying that, with the Spiked Chain, you can Trip an opponent.&nbsp; If you have Improved Trip, you provoke no Attack of Opportunity for using Trip.&nbsp; If the (hapless) opponent you tripped attempts to get back up, you get an immediate Attack of Opportunity on him.&nbsp; And one of you says:&nbsp; That Attack of Opportunity can be another Trip attempt.&nbsp; And one of you says:&nbsp; No, that's not right.&nbsp; Since Trip is only one attack (out of all the attacks you are allowed) I am guessing that if you successfully Trip an opponent, you make all the rest of your attacks against a Prone Opponent, with the Attack Bonuses granted.&nbsp; Thus:&nbsp; (You declare Full Round Attack.&nbsp; You get 4 attacks, being high level.)&nbsp; You win initiative.&nbsp; You attack with a Spiked Chain.&nbsp; Your move:&nbsp; 1st attack:&nbsp; You successfully Trip the opponent.&nbsp; 2nd attack:&nbsp; You attack the Prone opponent with bonuses.&nbsp; 3rd attack:&nbsp; As 2nd attack.&nbsp; 4th attack:&nbsp; As 3rd attack.&nbsp; Opponent's move:&nbsp; Opponent tries to get up.&nbsp; You get an Attack of Opportunity.&nbsp; Opponent cannot make Full Round Attack (took Standard Move to get up) but may make one attack (if he successfully stands up.)&nbsp; 1st Scenario:&nbsp; Your Attack of Opportunity:&nbsp; You Trip the opponent again.&nbsp; He cannot attack you this round.&nbsp; He starts the next round Prone.&nbsp; 2nd Scenario:&nbsp; Your Attack of Opportunity:&nbsp; You Attack (with bonuses?) and hit, doing damage.&nbsp; &nbsp; Opponent stands and makes one attack on you.&nbsp; Beginning of next round.&nbsp; Is this right?&nbsp; And if so, which of the scenarios above is right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 2773141, member: 2020"] Kenobi, the rest of you ... if Divine Grace allows you to use your Charisma bonus for all your Saves, does that stack with your other attribute bonuses to Saves (Dexterity, Wisdom, possibly other stats.) ? If you are allowed your Charisma bonus to Attack, does that stack with Strength and/or Dexterity bonuses? - So you are saying that, with the Spiked Chain, you can Trip an opponent. If you have Improved Trip, you provoke no Attack of Opportunity for using Trip. If the (hapless) opponent you tripped attempts to get back up, you get an immediate Attack of Opportunity on him. And one of you says: That Attack of Opportunity can be another Trip attempt. And one of you says: No, that's not right. Since Trip is only one attack (out of all the attacks you are allowed) I am guessing that if you successfully Trip an opponent, you make all the rest of your attacks against a Prone Opponent, with the Attack Bonuses granted. Thus: (You declare Full Round Attack. You get 4 attacks, being high level.) You win initiative. You attack with a Spiked Chain. Your move: 1st attack: You successfully Trip the opponent. 2nd attack: You attack the Prone opponent with bonuses. 3rd attack: As 2nd attack. 4th attack: As 3rd attack. Opponent's move: Opponent tries to get up. You get an Attack of Opportunity. Opponent cannot make Full Round Attack (took Standard Move to get up) but may make one attack (if he successfully stands up.) 1st Scenario: Your Attack of Opportunity: You Trip the opponent again. He cannot attack you this round. He starts the next round Prone. 2nd Scenario: Your Attack of Opportunity: You Attack (with bonuses?) and hit, doing damage. Opponent stands and makes one attack on you. Beginning of next round. Is this right? And if so, which of the scenarios above is right? [/QUOTE]

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