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Message: <blockquote data-quote="monboesen" data-source="post: 2787080" data-attributes="member: 4647">Or just take the lessons that are obvious (well, maybe some of this comes from my actual playing experiences with the rules).1. Fighters suck! At least at anything but fighting (usually in melee). They lack skills, mobility and tactical options. Often they have great trouble getting to the melee where they would shine. The full plate wearing fighters of my campaigns have all been deeply frustrated by their inability to get off those meaty full attacks.2. It's an enormous advantage for a fighter to start of as something else at 1st level. Ranger and Rogue are both good and popular choices. In fact 3 levels of ranger and/or 4 levels of rogue are a very very good investment for a fighter.3. The 3ed combat engine is not meant for 1 on 1 battle between pc's and npc's. It's made for small group combats (ideally at least 4 pc's with 1 fighter type, 1 skill type, and two spellcasters.) Single pc's are often lacking the abilities to deal with a situation, they are meant to rely on their comrades in arms.4. Mages should avoid melee like the plaque. Fighters can easily grapple and crush them to submission (and larger monsters are even better at this) or just kill them outright with a full round attack.5. It's not possible to build a viable fighter/mage (or ranger/mage) without prestige classes or house rules.6. Forget any paradigms of what's effective and what's not from earlier editions of D&D. The game has changed a lot with this edition. (for instance two weapon fighting which was THE melee combat option in 2ed is now a only a good option for rangers and rogues).7. As soon as you don't follow the standard rules for character wealth levels and further allow players some freedom to trade or choose magic equipment any semblance of game balance breaks down. Non-spell casters are hosed in games with lower wealth/rarer magic items.8. Mages are often better of hindering enemies or buffing friend than casting damaging spells. The most valuable commodity in 3ed combat is actions. Anything that denies/hinders enemy actions (like slow, grease, stinking cloud) is usually more important than doing damage (which you let the fighters do).9. Without at least one character with high Spot and Listen skill, you will get surprised over and over and over again. This will kill you!10. Try finding some people to actually play the game with. It’s a much more enjoyable experience to learn the rules by playing than by reading  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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