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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 2790405" data-attributes="member: 2020">I withdraw my statement about the usefulness of the DDG Feats.&nbsp; &nbsp; Unless you got all the DDG Feats at 1st level (which is totally illegal, not to mention impossible) forget it.&nbsp; Being a Generalist in 3.5 doesn't pay.&nbsp; That's obvious, from this thread and the example combats.&nbsp; &nbsp; For example, Lidda is able to take on both Grom and Narrin because she is specialized.&nbsp; Specialization pays.&nbsp; The more specialized, the better.&nbsp; Perhaps you could take Generalist Feats as a package (assuming you take the 2 feats gained from flaws, in Unearthed Arcana.) &nbsp; But the logic goes against that too.&nbsp; If you are going to specialize, you need to start immediately.&nbsp; You can't wait until 2nd or 3rd level.&nbsp; Following my logic further, multiclassing is a bad idea.&nbsp; Someone pointed out fighter/mages stank in 3.5.&nbsp; It seems I must agree with his assessment.&nbsp; The exception to this would be classes that stacked with each other, such as rogue/barbarian (?, or wizard/sorcerer?, fighter/ranger?)&nbsp; Even then, it sounds risky.&nbsp; I am told the Prestige Classes are better than the classes.&nbsp; You get more for your money (experience points) per level in a PrC than with a normal class.&nbsp; If so, then everyone should take prestige classes, because the need for specialization requires it.&nbsp; The more specialized, the better.&nbsp; The more specialized, the more likely you are to stay alive.&nbsp; Thus everyone will be a prestige class, or a prestige class/prestige class.&nbsp; Even if you are running a gestalt character, it seems to me the above logic applies (your DM is going to throw harder monsters at you anyways.)&nbsp; So no fighter/wizard/clerics here!&nbsp; No way.&nbsp; The benefits of being versatile are more than offset by the penalty of non-specialization.&nbsp; That equals a dead character.&nbsp; UNLESS ...&nbsp; Unless Generalization comes as a free package at 1st level, before you take your first Feat.&nbsp; Of course, Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, Rogue, all represent Generalizations of a sort, and they are, in effect, free packages.&nbsp; Now, the trick is how to find ways to obtain more Generalization skills for free, at the start, before taking Feats or Skills ...&nbsp; -&nbsp; EDIT:&nbsp; If Lidda sneak attacks the dire bear, while it is grappling Claire, then:&nbsp; Lidda would take her 5 foot step away from Narrin (to avoid drawing AOO from him.)&nbsp; Lidda fires:&nbsp; 7.&nbsp; 15.&nbsp; +13 is 20.&nbsp; +8 is 23.&nbsp; Both of these hit the bear.&nbsp; Damage is:&nbsp; &nbsp; 2.&nbsp; +3.&nbsp; +6d6 (5, 3, 2, 4, 1, 2) is 22 points, and:&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; +3.&nbsp; +6d6 (6, 5, 2, 2, 2, 5) is 22 points.&nbsp; 44 points of damage.&nbsp; Ouch.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 2790405, member: 2020"] I withdraw my statement about the usefulness of the DDG Feats. Unless you got all the DDG Feats at 1st level (which is totally illegal, not to mention impossible) forget it. Being a Generalist in 3.5 doesn't pay. That's obvious, from this thread and the example combats. For example, Lidda is able to take on both Grom and Narrin because she is specialized. Specialization pays. The more specialized, the better. Perhaps you could take Generalist Feats as a package (assuming you take the 2 feats gained from flaws, in Unearthed Arcana.) But the logic goes against that too. If you are going to specialize, you need to start immediately. You can't wait until 2nd or 3rd level. Following my logic further, multiclassing is a bad idea. Someone pointed out fighter/mages stank in 3.5. It seems I must agree with his assessment. The exception to this would be classes that stacked with each other, such as rogue/barbarian (?, or wizard/sorcerer?, fighter/ranger?) Even then, it sounds risky. I am told the Prestige Classes are better than the classes. You get more for your money (experience points) per level in a PrC than with a normal class. If so, then everyone should take prestige classes, because the need for specialization requires it. The more specialized, the better. The more specialized, the more likely you are to stay alive. Thus everyone will be a prestige class, or a prestige class/prestige class. Even if you are running a gestalt character, it seems to me the above logic applies (your DM is going to throw harder monsters at you anyways.) So no fighter/wizard/clerics here! No way. The benefits of being versatile are more than offset by the penalty of non-specialization. That equals a dead character. UNLESS ... Unless Generalization comes as a free package at 1st level, before you take your first Feat. Of course, Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, Rogue, all represent Generalizations of a sort, and they are, in effect, free packages. Now, the trick is how to find ways to obtain more Generalization skills for free, at the start, before taking Feats or Skills ... - EDIT: If Lidda sneak attacks the dire bear, while it is grappling Claire, then: Lidda would take her 5 foot step away from Narrin (to avoid drawing AOO from him.) Lidda fires: 7. 15. +13 is 20. +8 is 23. Both of these hit the bear. Damage is: 2. +3. +6d6 (5, 3, 2, 4, 1, 2) is 22 points, and: 3. +3. +6d6 (6, 5, 2, 2, 2, 5) is 22 points. 44 points of damage. Ouch. [/QUOTE]

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