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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 2795150" data-attributes="member: 2020">No, no, no, you got me all wrong.&nbsp; I'm not saying 3rd edition is broken!&nbsp; I'm not attempting to dis 3rd edition.&nbsp; I LIKE what I am reading.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; I just find it humorous, and am trying to be humorous.&nbsp; I'm simply imagining a time-travel situation where 2nd edition characters were thrown into a 3rd edition world.&nbsp; They had to stick to the 2nd edition rules, but everyone else used the 3rd edition rules, including their opponents.&nbsp; I find it humorous.&nbsp; The poor 2nd edition characters would be hiding in terror from those 5 orcs on the ridge yonder.&nbsp; Remember that I can still look at the game through the lens of a 2nd edition mindset, but now I'm learning to look at it through the lens of a 3.5 mindset also.&nbsp; The 3.5 system works quite well, I think.&nbsp; To me, it seems very good indeed.&nbsp; I didn't just go and buy all those books without good reason!&nbsp; I really LIKE the 3.5 system!&nbsp; But it is hilarious, when you take a 2nd edition mindset, and apply it.&nbsp; It is.&nbsp; I mean, I wish to heck *I* had had access to all these cool, great, imaginative rules when I was playing regularly!&nbsp; I do.&nbsp; As I said, Jozan is the cleric Edena should have been.&nbsp; Alhandra is the paladin Osilovar should have been.&nbsp; Valdania is the druid Cyndelle should have been.&nbsp; And Lidda is the rogue Aerviue should have been.&nbsp; I lament the fact I did not have these rules back in the 80s and 90s.&nbsp; If we had had these rules, we would have had more fun.&nbsp; A lot more fun.&nbsp; Looking at it from the perspective of 3.5 - through the lens of 3.5 - I see now we were playing AD&amp;D in a straitjacket, and I have to wonder how in heaven's name we had any fun at all?&nbsp; But it IS hilarious, to think of a 20th level fighter maxed to the hit with +5 items, hiding from a wraith.&nbsp; That's funny.&nbsp; And that's what would happen if the fighter had to abide by those 2nd edition rules, and the wraith got the 3rd edition rules (and especially, if it was a CR 15 to 20 challenge.)&nbsp; Nay, I am not dissing 3.5.&nbsp; I'm complimenting it.&nbsp; Bigtime.&nbsp; I mean, BIGTIME.&nbsp; I think it's kick butt.&nbsp; I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with this new game.&nbsp; And I think that, I'm going to eventually actually figure out HOW to combine all those bonuses and whatnot, and then you'll see what Broken Characters truly are!&nbsp; I'll submit some!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 2795150, member: 2020"] No, no, no, you got me all wrong. I'm not saying 3rd edition is broken! I'm not attempting to dis 3rd edition. I LIKE what I am reading. :) I just find it humorous, and am trying to be humorous. I'm simply imagining a time-travel situation where 2nd edition characters were thrown into a 3rd edition world. They had to stick to the 2nd edition rules, but everyone else used the 3rd edition rules, including their opponents. I find it humorous. The poor 2nd edition characters would be hiding in terror from those 5 orcs on the ridge yonder. Remember that I can still look at the game through the lens of a 2nd edition mindset, but now I'm learning to look at it through the lens of a 3.5 mindset also. The 3.5 system works quite well, I think. To me, it seems very good indeed. I didn't just go and buy all those books without good reason! I really LIKE the 3.5 system! But it is hilarious, when you take a 2nd edition mindset, and apply it. It is. I mean, I wish to heck *I* had had access to all these cool, great, imaginative rules when I was playing regularly! I do. As I said, Jozan is the cleric Edena should have been. Alhandra is the paladin Osilovar should have been. Valdania is the druid Cyndelle should have been. And Lidda is the rogue Aerviue should have been. I lament the fact I did not have these rules back in the 80s and 90s. If we had had these rules, we would have had more fun. A lot more fun. Looking at it from the perspective of 3.5 - through the lens of 3.5 - I see now we were playing AD&D in a straitjacket, and I have to wonder how in heaven's name we had any fun at all? But it IS hilarious, to think of a 20th level fighter maxed to the hit with +5 items, hiding from a wraith. That's funny. And that's what would happen if the fighter had to abide by those 2nd edition rules, and the wraith got the 3rd edition rules (and especially, if it was a CR 15 to 20 challenge.) Nay, I am not dissing 3.5. I'm complimenting it. Bigtime. I mean, BIGTIME. I think it's kick butt. I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with this new game. And I think that, I'm going to eventually actually figure out HOW to combine all those bonuses and whatnot, and then you'll see what Broken Characters truly are! I'll submit some! :D [/QUOTE]

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