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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3509840" data-attributes="member: 12460">Doesn't work with new polymorph rules.I've seen builds that attempt it, but it usually doesn't work as consistently as you suggest. But maybe you are aware of a tactic that I am not aware of.That is evident at all levels of play.I think you mean brilliant energy. Rogues can't sneak attack undead so ghost touch is hardly useful.What edition are you playing? The one I'm playing has anti-magic field as a personal range spell.Summoning kinda sucks. Gate spells can do this, but it costs 1,000 XP. Hence it is not a common tactic that I've seen.Never met a DM who doesn't have a way to deal with this. The idea is pretty silly when you think about it. Even the most silvered tongue in the world won't convince a dedicated opponent to surrender without a fight.Doesn't work with Spring Attack. The Hide skill technically requires a move action, although I can see how some might view it otherwise.The maximized fireball doesn't work unless you have some way of quickening it. Time stop requires a standard action.Huh???</blockquote>

[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 3509840, member: 12460"] Doesn't work with new polymorph rules. I've seen builds that attempt it, but it usually doesn't work as consistently as you suggest. But maybe you are aware of a tactic that I am not aware of. That is evident at all levels of play. I think you mean brilliant energy. Rogues can't sneak attack undead so ghost touch is hardly useful. What edition are you playing? The one I'm playing has anti-magic field as a personal range spell. Summoning kinda sucks. Gate spells can do this, but it costs 1,000 XP. Hence it is not a common tactic that I've seen. Never met a DM who doesn't have a way to deal with this. The idea is pretty silly when you think about it. Even the most silvered tongue in the world won't convince a dedicated opponent to surrender without a fight. Doesn't work with Spring Attack. The Hide skill technically requires a move action, although I can see how some might view it otherwise. The maximized fireball doesn't work unless you have some way of quickening it. Time stop requires a standard action. Huh??? [/QUOTE]

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