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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 249881" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>Speaking strictly as a consumer...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Traditional paper adventures now run $10 for 32 pages. Considering the cost to print an adventure is roughly 10 cents per page if I go to Kinko's (I don't, but for sake of argument let's say I do) - and that's on the high side - you're talking another $3.20 to print. Throw in a nifty cover ($1 for color printing) and you're already looking at a total cost of close to $10 on a printed version of $5 PDF - IOW, it's comparable in price to a $10 print adventure. OTOH, it is more portable and convenient - and you can also replace it if destroyed. I think $5 is about right, actually.</p><p></p><p></p><p>$5 is about right... though I would prefer to see a 64-page PDF for $5.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I really don't think this should affect the price. A publisher's name is going to drive sales much more than price, IMO. I personally buy a lot of PDF stuff to check out what's out there, but I don't jump on Monte's latest offering any quicker than anybody else's.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. When I buy a book at my FLGS, I can start perusing it instantly. I want the same when I get a PDF.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>20% on a $5 adventure - $1. I'll pay the buck to get it now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Both. Make two versions - one in full color, the other in B&W (or artless). I want one that looks nice and professional (esp. since I have access to a color laser printer) so I feel justified in my expense at purchasing. OTOH, I want a nice simple B&W one to print quick or to cut/paste. It's not that difficult to do two and package them together in the electronic medium... so it really should be done, IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When I'm printing it myself (on my own dime), I don't want decorative art - more ink/toner. When I'm using the color laser printer at work, different story. Should be nice and nifty but not overbearing (see my previous paragraph).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Avoid "locking" the PDF or at least make all OGC text available separately. I want to cut/paste stuff all the time.</p><p></p><p>Include lots of OGC - in fact, 99% OGC (where the product name, company name, and illustrations are all that is not OGC) is great.</p><p></p><p>Make sure the thing is bookmarked so I can find stuff fast.</p><p></p><p>DON'T put ads for your next product in it (a gripe with print stuff as well). If I pay for something, I expect it to be 100% ad-free... if you have to, cut out the ads and charge me the extra dime or two that the loss of ad revenue costs. I can't stress that strongly enough. NO ADVERTISEMENTS IN MY GAMING MATERIALS!</p><p></p><p>Shrink the OGL down to 4-point font. Then it fits in a quarter of a page or so. Adlon (Mortality Radio) suggested this and I think it's a good idea. You have to have it in there. It DOESN'T have to be "at a reasonable font size."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're welcome. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 249881, member: 2013"] Speaking strictly as a consumer... Traditional paper adventures now run $10 for 32 pages. Considering the cost to print an adventure is roughly 10 cents per page if I go to Kinko's (I don't, but for sake of argument let's say I do) - and that's on the high side - you're talking another $3.20 to print. Throw in a nifty cover ($1 for color printing) and you're already looking at a total cost of close to $10 on a printed version of $5 PDF - IOW, it's comparable in price to a $10 print adventure. OTOH, it is more portable and convenient - and you can also replace it if destroyed. I think $5 is about right, actually. $5 is about right... though I would prefer to see a 64-page PDF for $5. I really don't think this should affect the price. A publisher's name is going to drive sales much more than price, IMO. I personally buy a lot of PDF stuff to check out what's out there, but I don't jump on Monte's latest offering any quicker than anybody else's. Yes. When I buy a book at my FLGS, I can start perusing it instantly. I want the same when I get a PDF. Probably not. 20% on a $5 adventure - $1. I'll pay the buck to get it now. Both. Make two versions - one in full color, the other in B&W (or artless). I want one that looks nice and professional (esp. since I have access to a color laser printer) so I feel justified in my expense at purchasing. OTOH, I want a nice simple B&W one to print quick or to cut/paste. It's not that difficult to do two and package them together in the electronic medium... so it really should be done, IMO. When I'm printing it myself (on my own dime), I don't want decorative art - more ink/toner. When I'm using the color laser printer at work, different story. Should be nice and nifty but not overbearing (see my previous paragraph). Avoid "locking" the PDF or at least make all OGC text available separately. I want to cut/paste stuff all the time. Include lots of OGC - in fact, 99% OGC (where the product name, company name, and illustrations are all that is not OGC) is great. Make sure the thing is bookmarked so I can find stuff fast. DON'T put ads for your next product in it (a gripe with print stuff as well). If I pay for something, I expect it to be 100% ad-free... if you have to, cut out the ads and charge me the extra dime or two that the loss of ad revenue costs. I can't stress that strongly enough. NO ADVERTISEMENTS IN MY GAMING MATERIALS! Shrink the OGL down to 4-point font. Then it fits in a quarter of a page or so. Adlon (Mortality Radio) suggested this and I think it's a good idea. You have to have it in there. It DOESN'T have to be "at a reasonable font size." You're welcome. :-) --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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