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<blockquote data-quote="embee" data-source="post: 8323008" data-attributes="member: 7026827"><p>They're doing damage to older players. When the face of the older generation is a cartoonishly out-of-touch, hidebound grognard, it hurts the game as a whole by creating a generational rift. </p><p></p><p>On top of it all, there winds up being a real risk to a loss of institutional knowledge as grognard tendencies frequently run afoul of societal changes. Two social media examples are "3 Wise DMs" and "Dungeoncraft." 3WD are classic old-school gamers. And, when you listen to them, you can tell that, while they're not perfect when it comes to understanding the long-standing gender and racial problems baked into the game and that the 2020s are not the 1980s, they are trying. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, Professor DM of Dungeoncraft not infrequently digs in his heels on changes to the game and society and too often sings the all-too-familiar refrain of "in my day."</p><p></p><p>The difference is there. I'll put up with Thorin's obnoxious singing at the beginning of 3WD because those guys are trying to buck bad habits. And more often than not, I eyeroll Professor DM and think "there he goes again on another rant." </p><p></p><p>3WD takes a chance on new trends. While they'll reminisce about AD&D and 2e, they proudly talk about how they run 5e. </p><p></p><p>I grew up playing B/X in the 80s in the basement of my junior high as part of the D&D Club. In college, I played 2e and Vampire. But my group doesn't give a damn about those systems. They've been playing 5e since it came out. And so I run 5e. Part of me would love to run B/X or 2e for them. But if they don't want to play those systems, I'm not going to go twisting arms. On top of that, given that my sibling came out as trans last year and loves 5e in part because WOTC is trying to fix some long-standing issues, I give WOTC props for it. Making my friends and family happy goes a long way in my book. </p><p></p><p>There's only so much crapping on 5e by old fogeys that anyone wants to hear. And the more old fogeys that shoot their mouth off about how 5e is too woke, the more it reinforces a stereotype of older players being against progress.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="embee, post: 8323008, member: 7026827"] They're doing damage to older players. When the face of the older generation is a cartoonishly out-of-touch, hidebound grognard, it hurts the game as a whole by creating a generational rift. On top of it all, there winds up being a real risk to a loss of institutional knowledge as grognard tendencies frequently run afoul of societal changes. Two social media examples are "3 Wise DMs" and "Dungeoncraft." 3WD are classic old-school gamers. And, when you listen to them, you can tell that, while they're not perfect when it comes to understanding the long-standing gender and racial problems baked into the game and that the 2020s are not the 1980s, they are trying. On the other hand, Professor DM of Dungeoncraft not infrequently digs in his heels on changes to the game and society and too often sings the all-too-familiar refrain of "in my day." The difference is there. I'll put up with Thorin's obnoxious singing at the beginning of 3WD because those guys are trying to buck bad habits. And more often than not, I eyeroll Professor DM and think "there he goes again on another rant." 3WD takes a chance on new trends. While they'll reminisce about AD&D and 2e, they proudly talk about how they run 5e. I grew up playing B/X in the 80s in the basement of my junior high as part of the D&D Club. In college, I played 2e and Vampire. But my group doesn't give a damn about those systems. They've been playing 5e since it came out. And so I run 5e. Part of me would love to run B/X or 2e for them. But if they don't want to play those systems, I'm not going to go twisting arms. On top of that, given that my sibling came out as trans last year and loves 5e in part because WOTC is trying to fix some long-standing issues, I give WOTC props for it. Making my friends and family happy goes a long way in my book. There's only so much crapping on 5e by old fogeys that anyone wants to hear. And the more old fogeys that shoot their mouth off about how 5e is too woke, the more it reinforces a stereotype of older players being against progress. [/QUOTE]
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