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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8882188" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Honestly, I think it's because there's so little lore about them, no one can muster hate for them. They aren't small, so they don't catch any hate (nor love) for that reason. They aren't dragonborn, and have been around for a long time, so they don't get the unfair "it's <em>new</em> so it doesn't deserve to <em>exist</em>" response. They didn't have the "it got 7 entries, shoot it down!" hate, nor the "it's a FURRY, <em>DESTROY IT</em>" response.</p><p></p><p>I genuinely think they, like the Half-Orc, have skated along thus far <em>purely</em> on the basis that no one hates them enough to shoot at them.</p><p></p><p>Which, well, that's sort of a good encapsulation of the darker side of the "extremes are avoided" aspect of this...game? Contest? Procedure? Previously I had tied it to mediocrity alone, but that's not strictly true. For short lists, mediocrity is a strong indicator of success. For long lists like this one, however, <em>obscurity</em> is an indicator of success. If it's obscure, no one will feel enough feelings about it to want to throw down, at least not until the list has been massively reduced.</p><p></p><p>Hobgoblins are obscure, mediocre, and traditional. They're neither small, nor over-represented, nor prominent. They just....are. They exist and have done so for a long time, though I doubt most players could say much if anything about what they're supposed to be like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8882188, member: 6790260"] Honestly, I think it's because there's so little lore about them, no one can muster hate for them. They aren't small, so they don't catch any hate (nor love) for that reason. They aren't dragonborn, and have been around for a long time, so they don't get the unfair "it's [I]new[/I] so it doesn't deserve to [I]exist[/I]" response. They didn't have the "it got 7 entries, shoot it down!" hate, nor the "it's a FURRY, [I]DESTROY IT[/I]" response. I genuinely think they, like the Half-Orc, have skated along thus far [I]purely[/I] on the basis that no one hates them enough to shoot at them. Which, well, that's sort of a good encapsulation of the darker side of the "extremes are avoided" aspect of this...game? Contest? Procedure? Previously I had tied it to mediocrity alone, but that's not strictly true. For short lists, mediocrity is a strong indicator of success. For long lists like this one, however, [I]obscurity[/I] is an indicator of success. If it's obscure, no one will feel enough feelings about it to want to throw down, at least not until the list has been massively reduced. Hobgoblins are obscure, mediocre, and traditional. They're neither small, nor over-represented, nor prominent. They just....are. They exist and have done so for a long time, though I doubt most players could say much if anything about what they're supposed to be like. [/QUOTE]
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