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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8801007" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Clearly you and I have very different sugar cookies. A good sugar cookie absolutely has its own flavor and distinction.</p><p></p><p>Calling a cookie "cookie-flavored," at least from my perspective, is like making sugar cookie dough and then putting chunks of chocolate chip cookie into it. Not chocolate chunks, <em>cookie</em> chunks. As in...you already had to make cookies...in order to make <em>other cookies.</em> It's just redundant.</p><p></p><p>Devotion to a difficult moral standard is <em>literally</em> the core of the Paladin concept. It is the through line that the class has had for literally its entire existence, one of the <em>exceedingly</em> rare things in D&D that has remained truly constant across every edition (that has a Paladin in it, anyway.) What specific standard one adheres to has of course varies quite a lot, but the idea of deep and pervasive devotion is more central to the Paladin than to any other class, even thr Cleric. The Cleric is, in some sense, cerebral. A priest, <em>educated</em> in the faith, full of wise words and counsel, there to guide and nurture the flock. The Paladin is not such a counselor. She is a warrior and an exemplar. The dedication, the self-sacrifice, the unremitting <em>purity</em> of her commitment is the source of her strength. The Cleric can and perhaps even <em>should</em> ask questions of his deity, teasing out the subtleties of doctrine and ritual that govern layperson and clergy. The Paladin is neither lay nor clergy, but a true and explicit <em>soldier of the faith.</em> Soldiers obey the chain of command. They are, by definition, supposed to be devoted to their nation.</p><p></p><p>An oath of devotion is...just...that's what every oath requires! Devotion to a cause!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8801007, member: 6790260"] Clearly you and I have very different sugar cookies. A good sugar cookie absolutely has its own flavor and distinction. Calling a cookie "cookie-flavored," at least from my perspective, is like making sugar cookie dough and then putting chunks of chocolate chip cookie into it. Not chocolate chunks, [I]cookie[/I] chunks. As in...you already had to make cookies...in order to make [I]other cookies.[/I] It's just redundant. Devotion to a difficult moral standard is [I]literally[/I] the core of the Paladin concept. It is the through line that the class has had for literally its entire existence, one of the [I]exceedingly[/I] rare things in D&D that has remained truly constant across every edition (that has a Paladin in it, anyway.) What specific standard one adheres to has of course varies quite a lot, but the idea of deep and pervasive devotion is more central to the Paladin than to any other class, even thr Cleric. The Cleric is, in some sense, cerebral. A priest, [I]educated[/I] in the faith, full of wise words and counsel, there to guide and nurture the flock. The Paladin is not such a counselor. She is a warrior and an exemplar. The dedication, the self-sacrifice, the unremitting [I]purity[/I] of her commitment is the source of her strength. The Cleric can and perhaps even [I]should[/I] ask questions of his deity, teasing out the subtleties of doctrine and ritual that govern layperson and clergy. The Paladin is neither lay nor clergy, but a true and explicit [I]soldier of the faith.[/I] Soldiers obey the chain of command. They are, by definition, supposed to be devoted to their nation. An oath of devotion is...just...that's what every oath requires! Devotion to a cause! [/QUOTE]
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