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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdweller00" data-source="post: 8835722" data-attributes="member: 6778479">Nope.&nbsp; Under the FR Weave model (at least as presented by the PHB), the raw magic inherent to the universe cannot be directly manipulated, even by a Wizard.&nbsp; They manipulate the essence of a sentient entity, Mystra, instead.The major difference between &quot;The Weave&quot; model and using the demon is WHICH sentient entity one is manipulating.&nbsp; Same deal, really, for a cleric using the power of their god under the FR model.&nbsp; Or an animist cosmology where everything has a spirit that can be negotiated with.It's more than that.&nbsp; It means they call it by other names and conceptualize it differently.&nbsp; For example as some fluid-like force to be directed (c.f. &quot;channeling), some sort of solution to soak an object in (c.f. &quot;imbuing&quot;), some amorphous mass to mold or throw like a net (c.f. &quot;casting&quot;), some sort of sound-like force that can be spoken or chanted (c.f. &quot;incanting&quot;).&nbsp; The key point that maybe you're still missing is that no universal characteristic or nature of this &quot;interface&quot; is actually ever defined.The ONLY aspects that significantly differentiate &quot;The Weave&quot; from most other fantasy magic mechanics in the first place are the specific name, the conceptualization of Mystra as the method of accessing magic; and maybe the idea of some sort of cloth-like network being around us and usuable to affect the real, &quot;raw&quot; magic.&nbsp; Which shouldn't be surprising, really, given that D&amp;D is designed to replicate a variety of fantasy works and worlds.&nbsp; Even Brian Sanderson's metallomancy (or allomancy) idea works just fine under this system.&nbsp; Although in some other fantasy works it is specified that spellcasters DO directly manipulate magic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shadowdweller00, post: 8835722, member: 6778479"] Nope. Under the FR Weave model (at least as presented by the PHB), the raw magic inherent to the universe cannot be directly manipulated, even by a Wizard. They manipulate the essence of a sentient entity, Mystra, instead. The major difference between "The Weave" model and using the demon is WHICH sentient entity one is manipulating. Same deal, really, for a cleric using the power of their god under the FR model. Or an animist cosmology where everything has a spirit that can be negotiated with. It's more than that. It means they call it by other names and conceptualize it differently. For example as some fluid-like force to be directed (c.f. "channeling), some sort of solution to soak an object in (c.f. "imbuing"), some amorphous mass to mold or throw like a net (c.f. "casting"), some sort of sound-like force that can be spoken or chanted (c.f. "incanting"). The key point that maybe you're still missing is that no universal characteristic or nature of this "interface" is actually ever defined. The ONLY aspects that significantly differentiate "The Weave" from most other fantasy magic mechanics in the first place are the specific name, the conceptualization of Mystra as the method of accessing magic; and maybe the idea of some sort of cloth-like network being around us and usuable to affect the real, "raw" magic. Which shouldn't be surprising, really, given that D&D is designed to replicate a variety of fantasy works and worlds. Even Brian Sanderson's metallomancy (or allomancy) idea works just fine under this system. Although in some other fantasy works it is specified that spellcasters DO directly manipulate magic. [/QUOTE]

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