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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8849106" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>1) because DM fiat is often used to keep non-magical character up to a standard that is actually more restrictive than reality because of some innate bias of the DMs. </p><p></p><p>On the old D&D 4e forums, I remember a guy claiming it shouldn’t be possible to do archery on horseback! Another classic exemple is a Barbarian, while raging, falling down a cliff and the DM deciding there was no way the character would survive, despite the fact the fall damage rules would indicate it was possible AND the fall being nowhere near the world record for a survived free fall. Or the simple fact that no Fighter in the game can apparently approach any real world records in term of jumping, running or lifting…An unequal amount of DM fiat needed to function is an underrated element of class balance. I’ve played Cartoon Action Hour and that thing is super loose compared to even 5e DnD, but there’s no character is less dependent on DM fiat than another so it works there.</p><p></p><p>And 2) I’m purchasing a product made by professional designers. I expect professional design. I don’t expect every corner cases covered, but I expect that the rules that ARE there to be held to a professional standard of game design, and the missing rules be framed by solid guidance on how to improvise rulings. In that context, ‘Rulings not Rules’ sounds more like a lazy ‘ <em>SHRUG</em> Figure it out yourself’.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8849106, member: 7015698"] 1) because DM fiat is often used to keep non-magical character up to a standard that is actually more restrictive than reality because of some innate bias of the DMs. On the old D&D 4e forums, I remember a guy claiming it shouldn’t be possible to do archery on horseback! Another classic exemple is a Barbarian, while raging, falling down a cliff and the DM deciding there was no way the character would survive, despite the fact the fall damage rules would indicate it was possible AND the fall being nowhere near the world record for a survived free fall. Or the simple fact that no Fighter in the game can apparently approach any real world records in term of jumping, running or lifting…An unequal amount of DM fiat needed to function is an underrated element of class balance. I’ve played Cartoon Action Hour and that thing is super loose compared to even 5e DnD, but there’s no character is less dependent on DM fiat than another so it works there. And 2) I’m purchasing a product made by professional designers. I expect professional design. I don’t expect every corner cases covered, but I expect that the rules that ARE there to be held to a professional standard of game design, and the missing rules be framed by solid guidance on how to improvise rulings. In that context, ‘Rulings not Rules’ sounds more like a lazy ‘ [I]SHRUG[/I] Figure it out yourself’. [/QUOTE]
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