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Comparing classes for an "Enchanter/Illusionist" concept
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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6591746" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Play a sorlock! You get Subtle Spell <em>and</em> warlock at-will magic, and you break the game into the bargain! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Okay, more seriously: For what you're looking to play, bard is awesome. The reason? Expertise at 3rd level. Not only are you a full caster with a strong focus on enchantment and illusion, but you <em>also</em> get to double your proficiency bonus on two of your social skills, which are already high thanks to your maxed-out Charisma. Your illusions will be much enhanced if you can back them up with crushing Deception and Intimidation checks.</p><p></p><p>Arcane trickster is another option, and the one I went with (our party already has a bard; I didn't want to step on his toes). I built the character as a swashbuckler with a moderate amount of spellpower backing her up. Since I chose to pump Charisma over Intelligence, I don't rely too heavily on spells; instead I use my social skills and Reliable Talent, with some low-level illusions, <em>alter self</em>, and <em>mage hand</em> to round out my toolkit. Very fun, but maybe not as "magical" as you're looking for. Still, I'm normally a full-caster player, and I was worried the AT would cramp my style. Instead I have found it's a blast to play. Give it some thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 6591746, member: 58197"] Play a sorlock! You get Subtle Spell [I]and[/I] warlock at-will magic, and you break the game into the bargain! :) Okay, more seriously: For what you're looking to play, bard is awesome. The reason? Expertise at 3rd level. Not only are you a full caster with a strong focus on enchantment and illusion, but you [I]also[/I] get to double your proficiency bonus on two of your social skills, which are already high thanks to your maxed-out Charisma. Your illusions will be much enhanced if you can back them up with crushing Deception and Intimidation checks. Arcane trickster is another option, and the one I went with (our party already has a bard; I didn't want to step on his toes). I built the character as a swashbuckler with a moderate amount of spellpower backing her up. Since I chose to pump Charisma over Intelligence, I don't rely too heavily on spells; instead I use my social skills and Reliable Talent, with some low-level illusions, [I]alter self[/I], and [I]mage hand[/I] to round out my toolkit. Very fun, but maybe not as "magical" as you're looking for. Still, I'm normally a full-caster player, and I was worried the AT would cramp my style. Instead I have found it's a blast to play. Give it some thought. [/QUOTE]
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