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<blockquote data-quote="tagwort" data-source="post: 6593680" data-attributes="member: 6792614">Some thoughts on these two:While I expect most Arcane Tricksters focus on haste for damage, I feel that magical ambush at level 9 gives Arcane Tricksters a unique edge on control spells compared to non-sorcerer casters. While definitely lacking in quantity and level of spells known, they could get incredible mileage out of spells like Suggestion, Phantasmal Force, and Hypnotic Pattern. There's still definitely a physical focus, but the core &quot;enchanter/illusionist&quot; concept is still strong (though I suppose it depends on the type of campaign/frequency of encounters per long rest).Druids might be lacking on mind-control and illusion spells, but I feel that shapeshifting in itself is a form of trickery that lends itself well to the &quot;trickster&quot; concept. Similar to the Arcane Trickster, a druid wouldn't outdo a Bard/Warlock/Wizard at beguiler spells, but would compensate with unique tricks up its sleeve (with a little help from feats like Actor and Magic Initiate to focus the concept).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tagwort, post: 6593680, member: 6792614"] Some thoughts on these two: While I expect most Arcane Tricksters focus on haste for damage, I feel that magical ambush at level 9 gives Arcane Tricksters a unique edge on control spells compared to non-sorcerer casters. While definitely lacking in quantity and level of spells known, they could get incredible mileage out of spells like Suggestion, Phantasmal Force, and Hypnotic Pattern. There's still definitely a physical focus, but the core "enchanter/illusionist" concept is still strong (though I suppose it depends on the type of campaign/frequency of encounters per long rest). Druids might be lacking on mind-control and illusion spells, but I feel that shapeshifting in itself is a form of trickery that lends itself well to the "trickster" concept. Similar to the Arcane Trickster, a druid wouldn't outdo a Bard/Warlock/Wizard at beguiler spells, but would compensate with unique tricks up its sleeve (with a little help from feats like Actor and Magic Initiate to focus the concept). [/QUOTE]

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