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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8226168" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Some more in-depth analysis here. Based on the following assumptions:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The monk starts with Dex 16 and Wis 16, and maxes Dex first, Wis second.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The monk will attempt to stun opponents within +/-2 CR of the monk's level.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The monk tries to stun on each hit, and stops once the target fails a save.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Under the "Conservative" strategy, the monk will never flurry.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Under the "Nova" strategy, the monk will flurry if they have not landed a stun with their first two attacks.</li> </ul><p>Against monsters in the Basic Rules, here is the average chance per round to land a stun, and the average ki spent in the attempt:</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>Conservative</td><td></td><td>Nova</td><td></td></tr><tr><td>LEVEL</td><td>STUN</td><td>KI COST</td><td>STUN</td><td>KI COST</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>68%</td><td>1.42</td><td>77%</td><td>2.08</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>64%</td><td>1.43</td><td>74%</td><td>2.14</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>58%</td><td>1.43</td><td>68%</td><td>2.23</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>55%</td><td>1.50</td><td>64%</td><td>2.36</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>59%</td><td>1.53</td><td>69%</td><td>2.33</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>59%</td><td>1.52</td><td>69%</td><td>2.33</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>54%</td><td>1.53</td><td>63%</td><td>2.42</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>58%</td><td>1.46</td><td>67%</td><td>2.28</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>62%</td><td>1.51</td><td>71%</td><td>2.28</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>53%</td><td>1.53</td><td>62%</td><td>2.42</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>47%</td><td>1.56</td><td>56%</td><td>2.54</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>49%</td><td>1.50</td><td>58%</td><td>2.46</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>55%</td><td>1.55</td><td>66%</td><td>2.42</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>49%</td><td>1.56</td><td>59%</td><td>2.52</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>45%</td><td>1.55</td><td>54%</td><td>2.56</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>39%</td><td>1.50</td><td>48%</td><td>2.56</td></tr></table><p></p><p>Here is the same set of calculations for a monk who maxes Wisdom first. (Interestingly, Wis-first appears to be a superior build. You have a very slightly higher chance to stun, and spend significantly less ki doing it. Of course, you pay for it with reduced damage.)</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>Conservative</td><td></td><td>Nova</td><td></td></tr><tr><td>LEVEL</td><td>STUN</td><td>KI COST</td><td>STUN</td><td>KI COST</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>69%</td><td>1.30</td><td>78%</td><td>1.93</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>65%</td><td>1.31</td><td>75%</td><td>1.99</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>60%</td><td>1.30</td><td>69%</td><td>2.06</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>58%</td><td>1.24</td><td>68%</td><td>2.01</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>62%</td><td>1.27</td><td>72%</td><td>2.00</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>62%</td><td>1.27</td><td>72%</td><td>1.99</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>57%</td><td>1.27</td><td>67%</td><td>2.06</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>59%</td><td>1.33</td><td>69%</td><td>2.11</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>64%</td><td>1.38</td><td>73%</td><td>2.10</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>55%</td><td>1.40</td><td>65%</td><td>2.23</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>50%</td><td>1.42</td><td>59%</td><td>2.33</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>49%</td><td>1.50</td><td>58%</td><td>2.46</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>55%</td><td>1.55</td><td>66%</td><td>2.42</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>49%</td><td>1.56</td><td>59%</td><td>2.52</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>45%</td><td>1.55</td><td>54%</td><td>2.56</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>39%</td><td>1.50</td><td>48%</td><td>2.56</td></tr></table><p></p><p>And, for the optimizer, here is the variant human monk who gets Magic Initiate, learns <em>shillelagh</em>, and maxes Wisdom first.</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>Conservative</td><td></td><td>Nova</td><td></td></tr><tr><td>LEVEL</td><td>STUN</td><td>KI COST</td><td>STUN</td><td>KI COST</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>71%</td><td>1.34</td><td>80%</td><td>1.93</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>68%</td><td>1.35</td><td>76%</td><td>1.99</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>62%</td><td>1.35</td><td>71%</td><td>2.06</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>63%</td><td>1.35</td><td>71%</td><td>2.03</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>67%</td><td>1.37</td><td>76%</td><td>2.00</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>67%</td><td>1.37</td><td>75%</td><td>2.00</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>62%</td><td>1.38</td><td>70%</td><td>2.08</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>62%</td><td>1.39</td><td>70%</td><td>2.12</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>66%</td><td>1.43</td><td>74%</td><td>2.11</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>57%</td><td>1.45</td><td>66%</td><td>2.25</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>52%</td><td>1.48</td><td>61%</td><td>2.36</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>49%</td><td>1.50</td><td>58%</td><td>2.46</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>55%</td><td>1.55</td><td>66%</td><td>2.42</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>49%</td><td>1.56</td><td>59%</td><td>2.52</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>45%</td><td>1.55</td><td>54%</td><td>2.56</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>39%</td><td>1.50</td><td>48%</td><td>2.56</td></tr></table></blockquote><p></p>

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