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<blockquote data-quote="Noxrim" data-source="post: 8226484" data-attributes="member: 7030082">Thanks everyone for your contribution. Here are few things I wanted to address.- The biggest criticism against using DPR is Stunning Strike not being factored in. I definitely agree that it is an amazing ability, but I think that the class should still function well without it. If the Monk is spending all their Ki on Stunning Strike, they are not using their other cool abilities that they have from the class or the subclasses. I am not factoring any ability or spell that the Warlock has and could use, but it still does good damage.At early levels, the Monk is doing fine in that regards, all Ki points can be used on whatever the Monk fancies. They can spend it on Stunning Strike, or other abilities they have and they would still do good damage (better than that of a Warlock). At later levels, they don't gain any new abilities, just more resources to do the same things, but they suffer greatly in damage compared to other classes.- Some suggested that we should use a different baseline; That the Warlock was above average and we should use a baseline Fighter or a Rogue. But that is exactly what I did. The Rogue (with no extra feature other than Sneak Attack) surpasses the Warlock at all levels. It is even improving at a better rate since Sneak Attack improves every 2 levels. If we use that for baseline the Monk is going to look even worse.The Fighter is lower than the Warlock in this case, but is still ahead of the Monk at 11+ (without focusing on damage).Maybe I am underestimating Stunning Strike, but I feel that as a martial class, can't it do decent damage as well as have access to it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Noxrim, post: 8226484, member: 7030082"] Thanks everyone for your contribution. Here are few things I wanted to address. - The biggest criticism against using DPR is Stunning Strike not being factored in. I definitely agree that it is an amazing ability, but I think that the class should still function well without it. If the Monk is spending all their Ki on Stunning Strike, they are not using their other cool abilities that they have from the class or the subclasses. I am not factoring any ability or spell that the Warlock has and could use, but it still does good damage. At early levels, the Monk is doing fine in that regards, all Ki points can be used on whatever the Monk fancies. They can spend it on Stunning Strike, or other abilities they have and they would still do good damage (better than that of a Warlock). At later levels, they don't gain any new abilities, just more resources to do the same things, but they suffer greatly in damage compared to other classes. - Some suggested that we should use a different baseline; That the Warlock was above average and we should use a baseline Fighter or a Rogue. But that is exactly what I did. The Rogue (with no extra feature other than Sneak Attack) surpasses the Warlock at all levels. It is even improving at a better rate since Sneak Attack improves every 2 levels. If we use that for baseline the Monk is going to look even worse. The Fighter is lower than the Warlock in this case, but is still ahead of the Monk at 11+ (without focusing on damage). Maybe I am underestimating Stunning Strike, but I feel that as a martial class, can't it do decent damage as well as have access to it? [/QUOTE]

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