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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 8245422" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>I am not going to try to quote that very long post, but off the top of my head there are several glaring flaws with your arguments.</p><p></p><p>I have never, in my 40 years of playing various fantasy RPGs, had a party that didn't have at least one character that used a shield. They are as common as dirt and only cost 10gp and are available in just about every town. Studded leather is 45gp and plate armor is 1500. Bracers of Defense costs many thoudsands of gold pieces (2d10x1000) and that is only if you are lucky enough to find it for sale anywhere.</p><p></p><p>The weight of studded leather armor is meaningless until you hit your maximum carrying capacity, which is extremely generous in 5e. And again, it costs 2d10x1000-45 less than the Bracers of Defense.</p><p></p><p>The maximum number of attuned items is 3, p138 of the DMG.</p><p></p><p>Wearing armor only prevents you from wearing different armor, or the Bracers of Defense. The Bracers of Defense limits you to just two other attuned items. If you also have a good weapon (like the Staff of Striking, a Flame Tongue short sword or a Sun Blade) that also costs attunement and now you only have one slot available.</p><p></p><p>You only have two hands, sure. But you can change what is in your hands with an action. It takes an hour to attune to a different item. And you only get 3 attuned items.</p><p></p><p>Why do you keep mentioning a fighter with an 18 Str is needed to wear plate? It only requires a 15 Str. Even if you don't have the required strength the only penalty is it slows you down by 10'.</p><p></p><p>And again, most classes get some kind of armor proficiency. If you are wearing armor anyway then there is no extra cost to wearing magic armor. And magic armor does not require attunement. For a non-armored person (monk, sorcerer, wizard) they have to use one of there (very valuable) attunement slots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 8245422, member: 31754"] I am not going to try to quote that very long post, but off the top of my head there are several glaring flaws with your arguments. I have never, in my 40 years of playing various fantasy RPGs, had a party that didn't have at least one character that used a shield. They are as common as dirt and only cost 10gp and are available in just about every town. Studded leather is 45gp and plate armor is 1500. Bracers of Defense costs many thoudsands of gold pieces (2d10x1000) and that is only if you are lucky enough to find it for sale anywhere. The weight of studded leather armor is meaningless until you hit your maximum carrying capacity, which is extremely generous in 5e. And again, it costs 2d10x1000-45 less than the Bracers of Defense. The maximum number of attuned items is 3, p138 of the DMG. Wearing armor only prevents you from wearing different armor, or the Bracers of Defense. The Bracers of Defense limits you to just two other attuned items. If you also have a good weapon (like the Staff of Striking, a Flame Tongue short sword or a Sun Blade) that also costs attunement and now you only have one slot available. You only have two hands, sure. But you can change what is in your hands with an action. It takes an hour to attune to a different item. And you only get 3 attuned items. Why do you keep mentioning a fighter with an 18 Str is needed to wear plate? It only requires a 15 Str. Even if you don't have the required strength the only penalty is it slows you down by 10'. And again, most classes get some kind of armor proficiency. If you are wearing armor anyway then there is no extra cost to wearing magic armor. And magic armor does not require attunement. For a non-armored person (monk, sorcerer, wizard) they have to use one of there (very valuable) attunement slots. [/QUOTE]
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