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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8246028" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Which is far more than what the Bracers do. I mean, dang, a full extra attack? That's crazy good. They require attunement because of power. Being able to sling six fireballs a day is far far more powerful than +2 AC. That is six 3rd level slots of power.But, we just established that items that let you cast spells require attunement. Even for wizards and sorcerers. In fact, those items are generally restricted even further and only usable by those classes. So, what about &quot;I can wear armor&quot; justifies getting a +2 AC for no attunement that can stack, while not wearing armor means that you have to have an unstackable attunement based item?Wrong.&quot;If you think this item sucks, why don't you try ruining your class or throwing it away&quot; I mean, it isn't like we can rewrite the item... Oh wait. We can. See, arguing that we should rewrite the rules of then game, generally is hard to counter by claiming that you can just play by the rules anyways. See, we don't use the Bracers of Defense. That's why I advocate for changing them, because I would like to use them, but they suck as written.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8246028, member: 6801228"] Which is far more than what the Bracers do. I mean, dang, a full extra attack? That's crazy good. They require attunement because of power. Being able to sling six fireballs a day is far far more powerful than +2 AC. That is six 3rd level slots of power. But, we just established that items that let you cast spells require attunement. Even for wizards and sorcerers. In fact, those items are generally restricted even further and only usable by those classes. So, what about "I can wear armor" justifies getting a +2 AC for no attunement that can stack, while not wearing armor means that you have to have an unstackable attunement based item? Wrong. "If you think this item sucks, why don't you try ruining your class or throwing it away" I mean, it isn't like we can rewrite the item... Oh wait. We can. See, arguing that we should rewrite the rules of then game, generally is hard to counter by claiming that you can just play by the rules anyways. See, we don't use the Bracers of Defense. That's why I advocate for changing them, because I would like to use them, but they suck as written. [/QUOTE]

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