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<blockquote data-quote="fearsomepirate" data-source="post: 8250301" data-attributes="member: 7021420">The argument that BoD should stack with armor is the argument that Wizards, Monks, and Sorcerers shouldn't actually get them, because Fighters, Rogues, and Paladins deserve them more. This is the diametric opposite of what the item is for, going back to their introduction roughly 40 years ago. Thematically, armor proficiency is and should be a major feature. It shouldn't just be, &quot;everyone is entitled to 16 AC minimum, plus a default magic item bonus per level.&quot; Otherwise, armor proficiency would actually be bad. It would mean you have the same AC as everyone else, plus penalties on stealth and action economy. The fact that your Fighter can theoretically equip a +3 Shield and +3 plate without any cost should be viewed as a feature of the class.We should also note that this isn't new on a thematic level; jewelry that can increase your AC without wearing armor have always been extremely valuable. In AD&amp;D 2e, Bracers of Defense AC 2 were worth, unless I counted wrong, 4000 XP, which is more than +5 full plate, which takes the Fighter's AC to -4.&nbsp; Attunement is a new feature, but making BoD require it seems to me to be in keeping with their general presentation as very valuable &amp; precious items.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fearsomepirate, post: 8250301, member: 7021420"] The argument that BoD should stack with armor is the argument that Wizards, Monks, and Sorcerers shouldn't actually get them, because Fighters, Rogues, and Paladins deserve them more. This is the diametric opposite of what the item is for, going back to their introduction roughly 40 years ago. Thematically, armor proficiency is and should be a major feature. It shouldn't just be, "everyone is entitled to 16 AC minimum, plus a default magic item bonus per level." Otherwise, armor proficiency would actually be [I]bad[/I]. It would mean you have the same AC as everyone else, plus penalties on stealth and action economy. The fact that your Fighter can theoretically equip a +3 Shield and +3 plate without any cost should be viewed as a feature of the class. We should also note that this isn't new on a thematic level; jewelry that can increase your AC without wearing armor have always been extremely valuable. In AD&D 2e, Bracers of Defense AC 2 were worth, unless I counted wrong, 4000 XP, which is more than +5 full plate, which takes the Fighter's AC to -4. Attunement is a new feature, but making BoD require it seems to me to be in keeping with their general presentation as very valuable & precious items. [/QUOTE]

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