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<blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 8002847" data-attributes="member: 6801299"><p>4th edition did a lot of good changes, but it was mixed with lots of bad ones, so in general it was viewed as a bad game overall.</p><p></p><p>But 5E should have taken more from 4E, they took some things and make them better or worse:</p><p></p><p>At-will cantrips/powers, better in 5E than in 4E.</p><p></p><p>Healing surges in 4E are better mechanics than HDs in 5E.</p><p></p><p>5min recharge encounter powers are better that 1hr long short rest (1hr is NOT a short rest).</p><p></p><p>return to 3E-like spells and spells slots is far better than dull, bland "Daily" powers/spells in 4E.</p><p></p><p>+1/2 level bonus on EVERYTHING, no matter what, is the worst mechanics I have ever seen in any D&D game, 5E's +2 -> +6 proficiency is biggest improvement over 4E and 3.5E B.A.B. and skill ranks.</p><p></p><p>Not to mention HORRIBLE art work in 4E PHB. 5E is still not on 3E level, but still much better than 4E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Horwath, post: 8002847, member: 6801299"] 4th edition did a lot of good changes, but it was mixed with lots of bad ones, so in general it was viewed as a bad game overall. But 5E should have taken more from 4E, they took some things and make them better or worse: At-will cantrips/powers, better in 5E than in 4E. Healing surges in 4E are better mechanics than HDs in 5E. 5min recharge encounter powers are better that 1hr long short rest (1hr is NOT a short rest). return to 3E-like spells and spells slots is far better than dull, bland "Daily" powers/spells in 4E. +1/2 level bonus on EVERYTHING, no matter what, is the worst mechanics I have ever seen in any D&D game, 5E's +2 -> +6 proficiency is biggest improvement over 4E and 3.5E B.A.B. and skill ranks. Not to mention HORRIBLE art work in 4E PHB. 5E is still not on 3E level, but still much better than 4E. [/QUOTE]
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