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<blockquote data-quote="Condiments" data-source="post: 7827266" data-attributes="member: 6802006"><p>Agreed not every game is for everyone, which is why I've moved on from the edition to other games. But it's undeniable that there is an inherent tension within the game between it's leashed martial classes, and the unchecked casters. It's incredibly stressful as the levels increase to make sure this dichotomy doesn't get out of hand and affect the enjoyment of the players as a DM.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, D&D 5e is a half step from a cartoonish power ranger show as it is. Casters can re-grow limbs, create inter-dimensional mansions with spectral servants, resurrect people from the dead, break the laws of reality, send their enemies to literal hell(happened to one of my main villains), and stupify mass groups of enemies with little consequence. The only thing keeping them in check is kludgy rules like legendary resistance which nullify their power, and long adventuring days. The second requires some precise DMing and adventure designing which gets more stressful as the levels pile up.</p><p></p><p>I just find it odd that as soon as some variant of a fighter can demonstrate feats of strength and heroics that emulate spells the community throws it's hands up and leaves the table. Martial classes seem pretty shackled to in-grained biases that have persisted over time. I started playing D&D around 4 years ago so it's interesting looking at these things from the outside in.</p><p></p><p>It was pretty awesome discovering that in other systems, like 13th age, some characters can perform feats of heroics without even needing to roll like the Rogue's swashbuckle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Condiments, post: 7827266, member: 6802006"] Agreed not every game is for everyone, which is why I've moved on from the edition to other games. But it's undeniable that there is an inherent tension within the game between it's leashed martial classes, and the unchecked casters. It's incredibly stressful as the levels increase to make sure this dichotomy doesn't get out of hand and affect the enjoyment of the players as a DM. Honestly, D&D 5e is a half step from a cartoonish power ranger show as it is. Casters can re-grow limbs, create inter-dimensional mansions with spectral servants, resurrect people from the dead, break the laws of reality, send their enemies to literal hell(happened to one of my main villains), and stupify mass groups of enemies with little consequence. The only thing keeping them in check is kludgy rules like legendary resistance which nullify their power, and long adventuring days. The second requires some precise DMing and adventure designing which gets more stressful as the levels pile up. I just find it odd that as soon as some variant of a fighter can demonstrate feats of strength and heroics that emulate spells the community throws it's hands up and leaves the table. Martial classes seem pretty shackled to in-grained biases that have persisted over time. I started playing D&D around 4 years ago so it's interesting looking at these things from the outside in. It was pretty awesome discovering that in other systems, like 13th age, some characters can perform feats of heroics without even needing to roll like the Rogue's swashbuckle. [/QUOTE]
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