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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7060325" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>I really like what [MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] said about "skillful players" – that's very insightful because it has to do with a shift in thinking away from expecting the DM to be the primary entertainer / decision-maker to thinking about play as collaborative.</p><p></p><p>We've all seen the classic party of orphaned heroes who wander for no particular reason.</p><p></p><p>That's the perfect example of an unskillful player who hasn't exerted their imagination to create meaningful relationships between their character and other characters, and hasn't created a reason why they care about the campaign or adventure at hand.</p><p></p><p>It's astoundingly common. I see new players do it and I see old players do it. I see men do it and I see women do it. I see young players do it and older players do it.</p><p></p><p>I used to think it was a reaction of players to killer DMs taking out their PCs' families or something, but now I think it has much more to do with group psychology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 7060325, member: 20323"] I really like what [MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] said about "skillful players" – that's very insightful because it has to do with a shift in thinking away from expecting the DM to be the primary entertainer / decision-maker to thinking about play as collaborative. We've all seen the classic party of orphaned heroes who wander for no particular reason. That's the perfect example of an unskillful player who hasn't exerted their imagination to create meaningful relationships between their character and other characters, and hasn't created a reason why they care about the campaign or adventure at hand. It's astoundingly common. I see new players do it and I see old players do it. I see men do it and I see women do it. I see young players do it and older players do it. I used to think it was a reaction of players to killer DMs taking out their PCs' families or something, but now I think it has much more to do with group psychology. [/QUOTE]
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