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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 964828" data-attributes="member: 172">Thumbs down. I never liked assassins as automatic spellcasters, but at least I could buy that they might be trained in this art. The idea that all assassins have natural magic talent associated with spontaneous casting seems rather off to me. Do assassins only recruit members with sorcerous talent. Feh. No likely, but at least it affects a class I already didn't like.Fine by me.Ouch. Don't want to use that, but don't know how I can avoid it and still use it with the new bard if their skill point increase is based on this.Interesting. Big shift, but it might be worth it.Seems fine.One one hand, I don't see how they could have avoided this change in the face of the new system.On the other hand, as discussed in the&nbsp; DR thread (which died an early death) , this has some BIG umbrella effects WRT fiends. Effects that I am not happy with.That said, due to the closed state of said thread, I was unable to cede Coyote6 his point that the increased damage of fiends may make up for this.That's the problematic one, IMO.Not sure why this should be the case. I mean I could see either protection against opposite alignment being good or the damage being good, but saw no reason to shift.Seem reasonable to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psion, post: 964828, member: 172"] Thumbs down. I never liked assassins as automatic spellcasters, but at least I could buy that they might be trained in this art. The idea that all assassins have natural magic talent associated with spontaneous casting seems rather off to me. Do assassins only recruit members with sorcerous talent. Feh. No likely, but at least it affects a class I already didn't like. Fine by me. Ouch. Don't want to use that, but don't know how I can avoid it and still use it with the new bard if their skill point increase is based on this. Interesting. Big shift, but it might be worth it. Seems fine. One one hand, I don't see how they could have avoided this change in the face of the new system. On the other hand, as discussed in the DR thread (which died an early death) , this has some BIG umbrella effects WRT fiends. Effects that I am not happy with. That said, due to the closed state of said thread, I was unable to cede Coyote6 his point that the increased damage of fiends may make up for this. That's the problematic one, IMO. Not sure why this should be the case. I mean I could see either protection against opposite alignment being good or the damage being good, but saw no reason to shift. Seem reasonable to me. [/QUOTE]

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