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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1953272" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>The FAQ answer was written by Skip Williams.</p><p></p><p>The Manyshot feat was written by Andy Collins; when he was queried on the SotR question in his pre-Sage days, he stated that he had deliberately phrased it as "standard action" and not as "attack action" to prevent the combination with SotR.</p><p></p><p>The Attack action is a standard action that allows you to make a single attack. The Full Attack action is a full round action that allows you to make one or more attacks. The Charge action is a full round action that allows you to make a single melee attack following a move.</p><p></p><p>If you have a feat that requires the Attack action or Full Attack action - like Combat Expertise - you can't use it if you Charge, even though when you charge, you make an attack. Because that attack does not result from an Attack action or Full Attack action; it results from the Charge action. Thus, you are not taking 'the Attack action or the Full Attack action', and are not eligible to use Combat Expertise.</p><p></p><p>In the same way, Dual Strike allows you to take a standard action to attack with both weapons. It does not allow you to take the Attack action to attack with both weapons.</p><p></p><p>Spring Attack requires you to use the Attack action with a melee weapon. If you use the Dual Strike standard action to attack with both weapons, you are not using the Attack action with a melee weapon, and thus cannot use Spring Attack.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1953272, member: 1656"] The FAQ answer was written by Skip Williams. The Manyshot feat was written by Andy Collins; when he was queried on the SotR question in his pre-Sage days, he stated that he had deliberately phrased it as "standard action" and not as "attack action" to prevent the combination with SotR. The Attack action is a standard action that allows you to make a single attack. The Full Attack action is a full round action that allows you to make one or more attacks. The Charge action is a full round action that allows you to make a single melee attack following a move. If you have a feat that requires the Attack action or Full Attack action - like Combat Expertise - you can't use it if you Charge, even though when you charge, you make an attack. Because that attack does not result from an Attack action or Full Attack action; it results from the Charge action. Thus, you are not taking 'the Attack action or the Full Attack action', and are not eligible to use Combat Expertise. In the same way, Dual Strike allows you to take a standard action to attack with both weapons. It does not allow you to take the Attack action to attack with both weapons. Spring Attack requires you to use the Attack action with a melee weapon. If you use the Dual Strike standard action to attack with both weapons, you are not using the Attack action with a melee weapon, and thus cannot use Spring Attack. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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