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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 2866257" data-attributes="member: 8158">I'm not proposing a false scenario, I'm just not setting up a scenario in Ptolus, which, by design, is an exceptionally sophisticated magical city. Players won't get away with a lot of stuff in Ptolus that they could in an ordinary city where Joe Blow may not be astute enough to know he's been subjected to an enchantment effect and won't be able to consult a codified set of protocols of how to react. At any rate, this along with the remainder of your post is no longer relevant to a discussion about the warlock or invocations; it's more of a tangent about the effectiveness of charm spells in general.The charm invocation was provided as a single example used to illustrate a point (I could just as easily have picked another invocation, like Fell Flight). The point was to illustrate a more general misconception with the warlock--namely, that the warlock's invocations only represent spells that a wizard or sorcerer can cast virtually at will anyway. That's true in some cases,  but because of the final design decision to go with only a four-tiered Least, Lesser, Greater, Dark scheme, it isn't valid to apply the generalization across-the-board to all invocations. Warlocks only get invocations at 1st, 6th, and 11th, and 16th level. All least invocations certainly aren't inferior to 1st or 2nd-level spells, or equivalent to zero levels spells.</blockquote>