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Message: <blockquote data-quote="arscott" data-source="post: 1871915" data-attributes="member: 17969">look at it this way:  If you looked through the PHB spell list, would you thing "hey, why are all the spells in here wizard and cleric spells.  the ranger and druid really got shafted"?There are three core classes presented in the book, and it wouldn't be fair unless the book provided support for those three classes.  So if the classes were mechanically similar, it would be reasonable to expect that better portion of the spells in the book were divided between the three classes.But the classes aren't mechanically similar.  The warmage has an intentionally limited list of spells.  Including a bunch of new warmage spells in CA would be as ridiculous as having the Paladin's spells in the PHB be as numerous as the wizard's.  And the Warlock doesn't cast spells at all.  That leaves the Wu Jen, who therefore ought to have a large portion of the book's spells devoted to it, as is in fact the case.The wu jen needs it's own spell list with its own flavor.  If not, there's very little point in having the class at all.  Several posts here have already alluded to the fact that a wu jen isn't much more than a flavorful wizard.  And if all of those Wu Jen only spells were available to wizards and sorcerors, what would be the point of playing a wu jen at all?If I ever run a campaign without clerics and druids, then I'm going to make damn sure that wizards have access to the healing spells.  But if my campaign does have clerics and druids, allowing the wizards to access healing magic would be downright stupid.  Likewise, there's nothing wrong with allowing wizards and the occasional druid to cast wu jen spells in a wu jenless campaign, but that's not a reason to mark all of the wu jen spells as Wiz/Sor.</blockquote>

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