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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 3723675" data-attributes="member: 1465">Someone mentioned somewhere that UA Bloodlines could be taken as a starting point for designing races in 4e.I think it's a good idea, but let me clarify however that once every class works like UA bloodlines, there is no more need for those bloodlines to have "blank levels" (just in case someone hated that idea).If they go this route, it should be easy to then publish a monster in its basic form (without class levels) and then publish its "bloodline-like racial progression" either in the same MM entry (if the monster is supposed to be playable since the start, like an Orc) or otherwise publish it separately in a 4e Savage Species. Actually such a book could look quite similar to the 3e book, except that the "racial class" is applied on top of the base creature and together with class levels, instead of "breaking down" the base creature.I'm so much ambivalent on what I'm hearing about 4e skills... I think that 3e skills were a fantastic system to represent everything that isn't either combat not spellcasting. For a Player Character, they were a perfect system for me (although some of the specific skills could use a better mechanic). The only thing which 3e skills do not accomplish well at all is supporting NPCs.What I hear about Saga skills, makes me think that they are very good at supporting the NPCs, but I'm not so positive about PCs anymore...</blockquote>