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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 3731855" data-attributes="member: 12306">I'd say the advantages to moving to a system which assumes offense/defense balanced (with a large spread, of course, just both in the same league) vastly outweigh the loss of extreme glass cannons/dwarven defenders.  For example, part of the problem with Turn Undead (one of many, admittedly), was the ridiculous CR/HD ratio for the large skeletons and zombies.  The Holy Word line of spells also became quite wonky, frequently hitting the BBEG (if of a caster persuasion) harder than his (melee) minions.Of course, you can always recreate a glass cannon by taking a fully balanced kobold and giving him a necklace of fireballs.  I almost want to say that glass cannons and invulnerable, no offense monsters are better handled as traps/environmental hazards.  Glass cannons are "disarmed" by winning initiative.  No offense bricks are "bypassed" however the party so chooses.Given the sheer number of BAB 17/CL 17 gishes available on the charops board (16/17 is the absolute minimum to be taken seriously barring other vastly cool abilities), monsters with decent melee/decent spellpower are *completely* reasonable.  Dragons, in 3ed, are fast melee brutes with very weak spell support.  The whole Dragons=Magic theme breaks down in practice when you examine the CR-CL number (about 8 for Golds).Again, I think the game as a whole would be better off if glass cannons (and other unbalanced monster designs) were treated as traps or hazards (which is how they play).  Of course, I think that unbalanced monster designs really aren't all that appealing in actual play.</blockquote>

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