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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 3732473" data-attributes="member: 1288">If you're describing high-level play, perhaps. But I'd argue that low-level play is not even remotely "supers," and even mid-level play doesn't qualify. It may border on mythic, but it's not until high levels that you truly reach the "superheroes in armor" category.Thing is... If I want a superhero game, I'll play one. There's plenty of good ones out there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As the designers have discussed, the "sweet spot" of the game, on a mechanical level--and, I think, tough I don't claim to have proof, on a conceptual level for a majority of D&Ders--is between 4 or 5 and 13 or 14.That's before you get into the "superheroes in armor" category.As has been said before, no game can be all things to all people. While you can play D&D as high or low magic, as grim-n-gritty or mythic, as Call of Cthulhu or Justice League, the game cannot be optimal for all of those. It has to choose a baseline.I don't want my baseline to be supers. I don't want my baseline assuming an end result that can't any longer be called human. I don't want my baseline to assume that monsters--alien horrors, demons from hell, ancient dragons--aren't something to be viewed with awe and fear. And if that's what it takes to make the weird monsters appropriate as PCs out of the box, then I'd just as soon they not be.</blockquote>

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