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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Grackle" data-source="post: 3733049" data-attributes="member: 23976">Uhhh.... yeah, put me down for disagree. (And yes, I understand PCs and their opponents have different purposes and in-game functions. I get it, i get it, already...)  If there's a strong/simple/unified system underneath, it should be able to generate monsters, PCs, and NPCs w/o much trouble.  Other games do it, why not D&D?  In fact, I think --historically-- a lot of D&D's problems come from making a bunch of independent rules sets and glomming them together later on.  This new philosophy might sound cool now, but when stuff meshes awkwardly later on, it could cause a lot of unexpected headaches and pun-puns.  ***I'm hearing a lot of, "it's so much easier for the game designers this way," but why should I care about that?  So what if it is?  How is that a selling point for me?  I'm a player.  All I've got is a bunch of monsters I can't polymorph into.  I'm sure it would be harder for designers to make monsters that were balanced for play, and fun to fight, and simple to read; but that's still what i want.***There have always been some people, like me, who want to play monsters and weirdo characters, and it's always been a pain.  The official line has always kinda been, "just don't do that."  I felt like 3E was getting closer, and all that LA/ECL/HD business would get ironed out for 4E into nice flat Levels.  I was hoping for a way to roll up monsters (individuals from MM races and new ones) as easy as making a dwarven fighter.  Maybe not in the PHB, but in the DMG or a new Savage Species.  Instead of nice slick way to do that, it sounds like we're getting more patches.  ***Still, none of this is a deal-breaker for me; I just would've liked to see it develop the other way.  If nothing else, it looks like the humanoid races will get some attention, and be more useful/usable as playable races, and that's cool.  I won't really be upset unless the monstrous races/classes/talent-trees suck as bad as or worse than LA does now.</blockquote>

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