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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 3737987" data-attributes="member: 12306"><p>Except that the way you described it doesn't really work.  "2 heads, 2 rounds" is vastly more powerful than "bear hug".  In 3e terms, its about a 1 CR difference.  As noted before, raw stats is easy (although losing the provenance of the stats is extremely problematic, which might be gotten around by having "weapon skill" brute, and "strength brute" and a few different "magic buffed brute" listings).  Its the special abilities that differentiate the monsters, and its the special abilities that are really hard to get right.  To be at the same level as an ettin, a bear would need much better stats.</p></blockquote><p></p>