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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3748003" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Just to go back to the whole Monsters=Cthulu thing for a sec.</p><p></p><p>IMO, Mearl's wasn't referring to the flavour of monsters, but the comparison of monsters to PC's. In games like Mutants and Masterminds for example, the difference between the good guys and the bad guys are negligible from a mechanics standpoint. A superstrong bullet proof guy can be a hero or a villain.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, in D&D, there is a huge difference between the PC's and the monsters. Even if you use monstrous PC's, there's still a big difference. A 1st level PC doesn't come close to comparing in power to a very large part of the Monster Manual. Even a 10th level PC is easily overshadowed by a large chunk of the monsters. And, as you progress to the very highest levels, the monsters are still bigger than you. </p><p></p><p>This is the point he was making. Not that the monsters are beyond comprehension or anything like that, but, the power comparison between PC's and Monsters in D&D is closer to COC than Champions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3748003, member: 22779"] Just to go back to the whole Monsters=Cthulu thing for a sec. IMO, Mearl's wasn't referring to the flavour of monsters, but the comparison of monsters to PC's. In games like Mutants and Masterminds for example, the difference between the good guys and the bad guys are negligible from a mechanics standpoint. A superstrong bullet proof guy can be a hero or a villain. OTOH, in D&D, there is a huge difference between the PC's and the monsters. Even if you use monstrous PC's, there's still a big difference. A 1st level PC doesn't come close to comparing in power to a very large part of the Monster Manual. Even a 10th level PC is easily overshadowed by a large chunk of the monsters. And, as you progress to the very highest levels, the monsters are still bigger than you. This is the point he was making. Not that the monsters are beyond comprehension or anything like that, but, the power comparison between PC's and Monsters in D&D is closer to COC than Champions. [/QUOTE]
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