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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 3764462" data-attributes="member: 12306">True, except for the simple fact that simplicity comes at the cost of complexity (and I sure hope that doesn't sound profound).  *Any* simplification will come at a cost.  That cost may be grinding the game to a halt after a charm spell.  It may come at the cost of removing Disarm and Sunder and Dispell Magic as useful tactical options.  The descriptions that have come out of WotC have NOT detailed the complicated things (Ex, SLA, SU and spell abilities in 3ed parlance) but only the frankly trivial ones (BaB, HP, AC, Saves).  Of course the stat block can have all the important information, but if you have *that*, you have gone and done all the work that you were going to save.  So why not do the work right, allowing you to interface with the PC system fully?I'm worried that by doing the easy stuff first, in the way that they seem to have been, will lock them into in a system that makes lots of people unhappy (the roll-playing is badwrongfun croud, the swashbuckling croud and the tactical croud all have cause to worry).  I see a great opportunity to take 3e's Type system and make it *work* that is being wasted for something that makes life easier 9 times out of 10 and grinds the game to a halt that 1 time in 10.  Or says "you can't do that".  It seems so out of character with everything else coming out about 4e.</blockquote>