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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 3132521" data-attributes="member: 18093">GandAlf didn't throw a lot of spells, no. But like I said, Gygax drew on multiple settings and threw them into a blender. At any rate, that is totally beside the point. d20Dwarf said D&amp;D was not fantasy literature, and I said it was inspired by literature. Tell me again how I'm wrong about that because some aspect of the magic system doesn't reflect every wizard archetype in fantasy literature? Where did I say that arcane casters weren't &quot;blaster mages&quot;? Stop putting words in my mouth and read what I actually said. What I said was the magic system was designed BECAUSE of the games chainmail roots, not because of any one setting. E.G.G. liked Vance, so that's how he described it.Actual examples of how 1st ed or other editions were like Conan? Pretty much the whole concept of a fighter with a pile of hit points not being affected by his wounds, despite being hacked at by hordes of opponents? How about halflings being hobbits with the serial numbers filled off. Do you really mean to suggest that D&amp;D wasn't inspired by Tolkein, Leiber, Howard, Vance, Anderson, Lovecraft, et al?What, exactly, are you trying to say here? Are you actually insinuating that D&amp;D was NOT based on fantasy literature?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 3132521, member: 18093"] GandAlf didn't throw a lot of spells, no. But like I said, Gygax drew on multiple settings and threw them into a blender. At any rate, that is totally beside the point. d20Dwarf said D&D was not fantasy literature, and I said it was [I]inspired [/I] by literature. Tell me again how I'm wrong about that because some aspect of the magic system doesn't reflect every wizard archetype in fantasy literature? Where did I say that arcane casters weren't "blaster mages"? Stop putting words in my mouth and read what I actually said. What I said was the magic system was designed BECAUSE of the games chainmail roots, not because of any one setting. E.G.G. liked Vance, so that's how he described it. Actual examples of how 1st ed or other editions were like Conan? Pretty much the whole concept of a fighter with a pile of hit points not being affected by his wounds, despite being hacked at by hordes of opponents? How about halflings being hobbits with the serial numbers filled off. Do you really mean to suggest that D&D wasn't inspired by Tolkein, Leiber, Howard, Vance, Anderson, Lovecraft, et al? What, exactly, are you trying to say here? Are you actually insinuating that D&D was NOT based on fantasy literature? [/QUOTE]

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