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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3132865" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>The point is whether or not D&D wizards were ever like the wizards in these settings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, here is what you ACTUALLY said</p><p></p><p>It is very clear to me that you are saying that arcane casters are becoming something that they use to not be. And the blantant implication in your references to warlock and reserve feats, storm bolt in particular, is the "at will attack abilities" is the concern you are referencing. I'm not putting words in your mouth to say that moving from Gandalf to Diablo implies they were once not blaster mages.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dodge the point much?</p><p></p><p>Please show me an example of where arcane casters functioned in early systems in a way consistent with any of these authors other than the simple fire and forget Vance part.</p><p>You are claiming that arcane casters are becoming more like Diablo and yet you have still yet to provide a SINGLE example to support that claim. It is interesting that you have go around the block to talk about Conan's HP, but can't seem to speak to your own initial point.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If I meant that I'd say that instead of saying exactly the opposite, as I already did.</p><p>(You wouldn't be trying to put words in my mouth now would you?)</p><p></p><p>What, exactly, I'm trying to say here is that the D&D wizard is no further from typical literature wizards than it ever has been before. And I further saying that your claim to the contrary remains completely unsupported by a single example of a EITHER how they were more like literature in the past OR how they have substantively changed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 3132865, member: 957"] The point is whether or not D&D wizards were ever like the wizards in these settings. OK, here is what you ACTUALLY said It is very clear to me that you are saying that arcane casters are becoming something that they use to not be. And the blantant implication in your references to warlock and reserve feats, storm bolt in particular, is the "at will attack abilities" is the concern you are referencing. I'm not putting words in your mouth to say that moving from Gandalf to Diablo implies they were once not blaster mages. Dodge the point much? Please show me an example of where arcane casters functioned in early systems in a way consistent with any of these authors other than the simple fire and forget Vance part. You are claiming that arcane casters are becoming more like Diablo and yet you have still yet to provide a SINGLE example to support that claim. It is interesting that you have go around the block to talk about Conan's HP, but can't seem to speak to your own initial point. If I meant that I'd say that instead of saying exactly the opposite, as I already did. (You wouldn't be trying to put words in my mouth now would you?) What, exactly, I'm trying to say here is that the D&D wizard is no further from typical literature wizards than it ever has been before. And I further saying that your claim to the contrary remains completely unsupported by a single example of a EITHER how they were more like literature in the past OR how they have substantively changed. [/QUOTE]
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