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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 3135774" data-attributes="member: 18093"><p>History lesson for those who didn't read the whole thread:</p><p></p><p>1) I expressed my opinion regarding the reserve feats, and said they made the game more like Gauntlet and Diablo II.</p><p></p><p>2) Someone said "D&D ain't literature".</p><p></p><p>3) I said D&D was once based on fantasy literature.</p><p></p><p>4) ByronD asked me how it was based on literature.</p><p></p><p>5) I explained how.</p><p></p><p>6) He said "no no, how is the <em>magic system </em> based on literature.</p><p></p><p>7) I explained how it was.</p><p></p><p>8) He and others repeatedly tried to deny my explanations and turn the discussion to how D&D magic was never like fantasy literature magic in the first place, despite examples to the contrary.</p><p></p><p>9) I get sick of being accused of misrepresenting others statements and having my examples comparing reserve feats to spells and magic items be mostly ignored and leave these people to their own devices.</p><p></p><p>I will admit one error, however. I should not have compared these reserve feats to Diablo II. At least in that game, even the zappy attacks drain your mana, a finite reserve of points. In almost every work fantasy lit, magic is somehow taxing, draining, or otherwise limited in it's use. Even Dr Strange gets tired.</p><p></p><p>The game IS changing, and these feats take it a lot further down that path. If people doesn't want to see it or admit it, fine, they are welcome to their opinions. Just don't try to tell me I'm not entitled to my own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 3135774, member: 18093"] History lesson for those who didn't read the whole thread: 1) I expressed my opinion regarding the reserve feats, and said they made the game more like Gauntlet and Diablo II. 2) Someone said "D&D ain't literature". 3) I said D&D was once based on fantasy literature. 4) ByronD asked me how it was based on literature. 5) I explained how. 6) He said "no no, how is the [I]magic system [/I] based on literature. 7) I explained how it was. 8) He and others repeatedly tried to deny my explanations and turn the discussion to how D&D magic was never like fantasy literature magic in the first place, despite examples to the contrary. 9) I get sick of being accused of misrepresenting others statements and having my examples comparing reserve feats to spells and magic items be mostly ignored and leave these people to their own devices. I will admit one error, however. I should not have compared these reserve feats to Diablo II. At least in that game, even the zappy attacks drain your mana, a finite reserve of points. In almost every work fantasy lit, magic is somehow taxing, draining, or otherwise limited in it's use. Even Dr Strange gets tired. The game IS changing, and these feats take it a lot further down that path. If people doesn't want to see it or admit it, fine, they are welcome to their opinions. Just don't try to tell me I'm not entitled to my own. [/QUOTE]
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